Yes, the 25th Amendment is more likely
Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:36pm

Rumor has it that his Cabinet isn't in awe of him, and Pence is obviously ready and willing to step in.

"Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President."

So Pence would need to convince 13 of the 24 Cabinet members that Trump is completely GaGa.

Does that actually sound difficult to you?

Offhand, I could see yes votes from:
  1. Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson

  2. Attorney General Jeff Sessions

  3. White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly

  4. Secretary of Defense James Mattis

  5. Secretary of Transportation Elaine L. Chao

  6. Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats

  7. Director of the Central Intelligence Agency Mike Pompeo

  8. Representative of the United States to the United Nations Nikki Haley

Not many more needed.

And if that lineup of people is telling Congress that Trump is nuts, I think they would concur. I can guarantee that Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell would prefer Pence to Trump.
Several months ago, according to two sources with knowledge of the conversation, former chief strategist Steve Bannon told Trump that the risk to his presidency wasn’t impeachment, but the 25th Amendment—the provision by which a majority of the Cabinet can vote to remove the president. When Bannon mentioned the 25th Amendment, Trump said, “What’s that?” According to a source, Bannon has told people he thinks Trump has only a 30 percent chance of making it the full term.

I think Bannon got it right.

  • Well, at least you're being rational.SES, Wed Nov 29 11:53am
    Just kidding. Good luck getting 2/3rds of a Republican-controlled Senate to impeach a sitting Republican President. Too funny. You kids and your childlike imaginations.
    • Yes, the 25th Amendment is more likely — Jeeves, Wed Nov 29 12:36pm
      • Read it again.SES, Wed Nov 29 2:27pm
        Amendment XXV, Section 4: "...Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt... more
        • That's what I saidJeeves, Wed Nov 29 2:34pm
          Read it again. " And if that lineup of people is telling Congress that Trump is nuts, I think they would concur. " We shall see if it will happen. Are you seriously STILL supporting that lunatic?... more
          • ...President Trump is going to be impeached has more screws loose than President Trump does. Get a friggin' grip on reality.
            • Try again.Jeeves, Wed Nov 29 3:36pm
              Removal by the Cabinet with confirmation by the Congress is not impeachment.
              • A rose by any other name....SES, Wed Nov 29 3:52pm
                It's even LESS likely under the 25th Amendment than it is under the impeachment clause. Impeachment just requires a simple majority in the House, and conviction requires 2/3rds of the Senate. The... more
                • that they NEED to get rid of tRUMP at some point because he is SO toxic that he hurts them too. The biggest reason they have not YET dumped him is due to concerns that his rabid supporters will turn... more
                • The guy believes in more conspiracy theories than anyone I have ever known.
                  • And it was a binary choice. If Hillary had been elected, she would have been impeached and well on her way to jail by now.
                    • Based on exactly WHAT? (nm)Sia☺giah, Mon Feb 5 8:01pm
                    • I would take Kaine. Seriously, do you support Trump, or would you prefer he "go away" and have President Pence?
                      • I don't think he'll run for a second term, and THEN we'll get your President Pence. Tim Kaine was our Governor. He's a sh*tbag.
                        • Kane appeared insubstantialPikes, Wed Nov 29 8:08pm
                          and a rubber stamp for Hillary. No good. Pence is disliked by Hoosiers to extent he'd lose the next goober election. Warren is the real deal, but Republicans apparently can't shut up their name... more
                          • ...those of us who voted for Trump had the choice of ANYONE ON THE PLANET and instead we chose -- Donald Trump. At the time, I wanted Rubio. I've reconsidered THAT since then, but still... was... more
                            • ...the claims of anti-Trumpers that Trump supporters absolutely LOVE every single think that President Trump ver says or does or tweets is ALSO duplicitous and absurd. I've said before that Trump... more
                              • approved of every action which President Obama took, just because you voted for the man.
                                • the economic conditions of 2016 on...according to dear SES.
                                  • ...on Election Night Libtard news coverage, especially on PMSNBC, kept referring to the Dow Futures. Their position was that, as it became clear that Trump would win, and DOW Futures started to... more
                                    • Hey SES, about that stock market thingJeeves, Mon Feb 5 5:09pm
                                      Dow closes down 1,175 in biggest single-day point loss ever The Dow closed 1,175 points lower after briefly declining more than 1,500 points, posting its biggest single-day point loss ever. The... more
                                      • I don't recall Libs thinking it was that big a deal when it dropped by more than this when Barrack Hussein was in office. I also like how all of the Libs who've been claiming that the record high DOW ... more
                                        • Aren't those straw men dead yet?Jeeves, Wed Feb 7 3:15pm
                                          You are the one who insisted on tying the stock market's performance to the President. That means you take the bad with the good. 8^) And tying them together actually makes Obama look good (as has... more
                                          • Which Strawmen?SES, Thu Feb 8 10:17am
                                            Absolutely, the recent drop in the DOW is because of Trump's policies. They inevitably increased interest rates, which predictably caused a drop in the markets. Did I ever claim that the recent drop... more
                                            • The ones you just resurrected againJeeves, Thu Feb 8 10:59am
                                              " Anything GOOD can be claimed by Obama. Anything BAD is all on Trump. " I don't recall Hemi making those claims, and I certainly don't claim those are true. Clearly these are claims of your own... more
                                        • you're saying others are hysterical...HeavyHemi, Wed Feb 7 12:40pm
                                          while posting another of your hysterical diatribes. Pretty much every whine you make about the 'ebil wibberals' you repeat on steroids. So dammed predictable... as trolls are.
                                      • Hold onto your safety barPikes, Mon Feb 5 5:55pm
                                        Welcome to the REAL Trump policy stock market economy. This drop isn't yet tangible, and remains speculative- but closing in on the actual, tangible expectations from the loss of revenue due to tax... more
                                        • Wrong!Ted, Mon Feb 5 6:48pm
                                          The stock market was not open yesterday and Saturday. However, was down a bunch. The market was due for a correction though. I'm not in a panic, yet.
                                          • Oops. I was thinking FridayPikes, Mon Feb 5 8:57pm
                                            Today has been "Tuesday" all day for me. Many "Tuesday" things happened today. Correction began Friday. You Mondofuegoans coming here to harass when you have opportunity is amusing. I never posted on ... more
                                    •'s funny...HeavyHemi, Thu Nov 30 5:35pm
                                      how you string sentences of babbling together thinking you made an adult, cogent argument. Obama was elected with an economic disaster in the works. Trump was elected with a stable growing economy.... more
                                    • Happen to know how the DJIA performed during the Obama years?
                                        • Or you would know that the Obama stock market was wonderful . Bull market is 103 months old. Trump owns 11 of them President Trump's victory last November set off a massive party on Wall Street that... more
                                        • Do you practice lying Pikes, Thu Nov 30 3:15pm
                                          to yourself, or is it a natural talent?
                                          • Wow. Pot. Kettle. Black.SES, Thu Nov 30 3:35pm
                                            Using Election Day as the day Obama became a Lame Duck: The DOW Closing: November 2, 2015: 17,910 November 4, 2016: 17,888 Oops. Sorry. The DOW wasn't stagnant. It went up 22 points in a year.
                                            • You describedPikes, Thu Nov 30 3:45pm
                                              the asshole of the elephant as representative of the entire animal. Why? Because you wanted to make the elephant an asshole. Not that it is, which it isn't. But that's what you wanted it to be.
                                              • Fine. Facts mean nothing to you.SES, Thu Nov 30 4:31pm
                                                The DOW was at almost the exact same level when Obama's last year in office STARTED as it was when Obama's last year in office ENDED. Since then, it's SHOT UP by over 6,360 points. Now, please tell... more
                                                • Complete facts do.Pikes, Thu Nov 30 7:40pm
                                                  Since your question is rhetorical, there is no point answering or discussing. You will visit and pile your own wealth of misconceptions and misunderstandings on me in effort to prove yourself right.... more
                                                • ...would you use were you on the other side of the issue? Because you know what they are. What is more important? Showing up someone in an argument, or arriving at the most logical and best... more
                              • You must not have invested in 2009Pikes, Thu Nov 30 10:59am
                                "the same ant-business policies and pronouncements of the Obama Administration that had created an anemic economy."
                • We shall see (nm)Jeeves, Wed Nov 29 3:59pm