MerlinThis Is About a wedding Cake, NotSun Dec 3, 2017 11:20am24.228.93.156
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I don't buy that Christianity "draws the line" at baking a cake that is not part of the wedding ceremony will be eaten at a banquet hall, etc. after they are married.
Mr. Phillips decided to make it about Speech rather than Religion.
I suspect he did so on the advice of his attorney, as he really did not have a leg to stand on in terms of Freedom of Religion, as Mr. Will explained.
It's a very sticky situation, for sure. Sia☺giah, Sun Dec 3 10:36amThere are valid arguments on BOTH SIDES. The baker certainly had his "conscience" to consider, but, my understanding is that he was VERY polite to them and offered alternative shops where they could... more
The Man Doesn't Make Halloween Cakes... Amadeus, Tue Dec 5 9:18pm...for anybody. That is not a problem. But when you sell to one, you must sell to all. If he wants to sell wedding cakes, then he must sell wedding cakes to all. If his faith precludes that, and his... more
He did exactly that and lost 40% of his business Sia☺giah, Tue Dec 5 11:19pmand more than half of his employees. It's in the original article Merlin shared. It clearly says that he DID stop making ANY wedding cakes, which is WHY he was so significantly injured by this... more
I Suspect He Stopped Getting Customers For Wedding Cakes Merlin, Wed Dec 6 6:59amand that is why he stopped making wedding cakes.
I would think that his attorney advised him to stop making Sia☺giah, Wed Dec 6 11:22pmANY wedding cakes if he plans to refuse to make "gay themed" wedding cakes. That Is The Beauty Of Freedom Of Religion... Amadeus, Wed Dec 6 2:12amHe can follow a faith that calls for such sacrifice, but he can't force it on anyone else. I don't have any sympathy for him. None whatsoever. This is the ethical choice he has to make for himself. I ... more Have we lost the ability to compromise? Pikes, Wed Dec 6 12:32amIt's especially acute with religious topics, because people feel they can't compromise "God's word," even when they don't know what the hell that is. In Evangelicalland, everything is God's word and... more
We Don't Have To Get Ugly... Amadeus, Wed Dec 6 2:15amBecause we're in the right. We just have to patiently uphold the right. The right of everyone to equal access, equal service, equal treatment under law. If your faith compels you to use any bit of... more Quoting Jesus is unfair! (nm) Pikes, Tue Dec 5 10:13pm
- This Is About a wedding Cake, Not Merlin, Sun Dec 3 11:20am
ALL wedding cakes are eaten in halls Sia☺giah, Sun Dec 3 6:38pmPersonally, I think the entire thing is totally ridiculous as I don't believe that anyone should have an issue with baking a cake for anyone else and see NO REASON why anyone gives a crap who marries ... more
I am not well versed in the details of this case.... wondering, Sun Dec 3 10:57ambut I am wondering if that solution was offered to the couple... that they could have purchased and put their own male figures on the cake themselves? It seems that would have been a very reasonable... more