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Merlin

This Is About a wedding Cake, Not

Sun Dec 3, 2017 11:20am

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;-)

I don't buy that Christianity "draws the line" at baking a cake that is not part of the wedding ceremony will be eaten at a banquet hall, etc. after they are married.

Mr. Phillips decided to make it about Speech rather than Religion.

I suspect he did so on the advice of his attorney, as he really did not have a leg to stand on in terms of Freedom of Religion, as Mr. Will explained.

• It's a very sticky situation, for sure. — Sia☺giah, Sun Dec 3 10:36am
  There are valid arguments on BOTH SIDES. The baker certainly had his "conscience" to consider, but, my understanding is that he was VERY polite to them and offered alternative shops where they could... more
• • The Man Doesn't Make Halloween Cakes... — Amadeus, Tue Dec 5 9:18pm
    ...for anybody. That is not a problem. But when you sell to one, you must sell to all. If he wants to sell wedding cakes, then he must sell wedding cakes to all. If his faith precludes that, and his... more
  • • He did exactly that and lost 40% of his business — Sia☺giah, Tue Dec 5 11:19pm
      and more than half of his employees. It's in the original article Merlin shared. It clearly says that he DID stop making ANY wedding cakes, which is WHY he was so significantly injured by this... more
    • • I Suspect He Stopped Getting Customers For Wedding Cakes — Merlin, Wed Dec 6 6:59am
        and that is why he stopped making wedding cakes.
      • • I would think that his attorney advised him to stop making — Sia☺giah, Wed Dec 6 11:22pm
          ANY wedding cakes if he plans to refuse to make "gay themed" wedding cakes.
      • That Is The Beauty Of Freedom Of Religion... — Amadeus, Wed Dec 6 2:12am
        He can follow a faith that calls for such sacrifice, but he can't force it on anyone else. I don't have any sympathy for him. None whatsoever. This is the ethical choice he has to make for himself. I ... more
      • Have we lost the ability to compromise? — Pikes, Wed Dec 6 12:32am
        It's especially acute with religious topics, because people feel they can't compromise "God's word," even when they don't know what the hell that is. In Evangelicalland, everything is God's word and... more
      • • We Don't Have To Get Ugly... — Amadeus, Wed Dec 6 2:15am
          Because we're in the right. We just have to patiently uphold the right. The right of everyone to equal access, equal service, equal treatment under law. If your faith compels you to use any bit of... more
    • Quoting Jesus is unfair! (nm) — Pikes, Tue Dec 5 10:13pm
• • This Is About a wedding Cake, Not — Merlin, Sun Dec 3 11:20am
  • • ALL wedding cakes are eaten in halls — Sia☺giah, Sun Dec 3 6:38pm
      Personally, I think the entire thing is totally ridiculous as I don't believe that anyone should have an issue with baking a cake for anyone else and see NO REASON why anyone gives a crap who marries ... more
• • I am not well versed in the details of this case.... — wondering, Sun Dec 3 10:57am
    but I am wondering if that solution was offered to the couple... that they could have purchased and put their own male figures on the cake themselves? It seems that would have been a very reasonable... more

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