Sprout
An interesting example of a change
Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:49am
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in how the US is referred to that I think is part of the problem....

Note how the author refers to the United States as a plural.

The United States have... The United States are...

And refers to states ALMOST like individual nations...

IMO trying to force the US into a homogenous singular entity is one of the many reasons we are having some of the problems we are.

If we truly limit the federal gov't as the founders intended and allowed the states the variety that they want, Americans would not feel constrained by a NATION that was seen as either too far left or to far right... They could pick and choose where they live WITHIN that nation based on what STATE provides them the environment they desire most.


  • The American ExperimentJeeves, Tue Sep 11 9:45am
    https://www.historians.org/teaching-and-learning/teaching-resources-for-historians/sixteen-months-to-sumter/newspaper-index/new-york-daily-tribune/the-american-experiment The American Experiment... more
    • An interesting example of a change — Sprout, Tue Sep 11 10:49am
      • That event changed the perception of independence of the states, but not the underlying democratic traditions and institutions of the nation. The American Experiment refers to a democratic republic... more
        • And I would say that while many of theSprout, Tue Sep 11 1:08pm
          changes of the civil war were ultimately good, some were not and have had long term negative consequences.
          • You're basically saying, nothing. Give your best example of what you believe is the "worst change" and had the "worst long term consequences" from that, as you call it "change". Thanks.
            • I thought I made that clear earlier...Sprout, Tue Sep 11 4:11pm
              You chose to go to racism as the only possible consideration, which I have to presume is projection on your part. If you can't grasp that the CONCEPT of diversity goes beyond just race, I can't help... more
              • Your assertion that racism is the only possible consideration is silly and of course just another lie you've posted to avoid actually taking a position. Once again, I am not your excuse.
        • Yes I did....Sprout, Tue Sep 11 1:06pm
          I would say that the great class has already arisen... Look at the ruling families like Kennedy and Bush and Clinton. And they have blinded MOST of the people to believe in the division between... more
          • You need to reread that quoteJeeves, Tue Sep 11 3:02pm
            He wasn't referring to a ruling class. " a great class would arise, of mere laborers, destitute of property, to whom the right of suffrage could not be safely entrusted. I agree that wealth... more
      • Oh....so segregated fountains in this state...HeavyHemi, Tue Sep 11 10:59am
        no abortion in that state. I think you're stretching based on that sample size of, one.