I think the point about murdering his uncle was showing that
Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:36am

one cannot expect anything "normal" out of him and to show that he's absolutely NEVER to be trusted to keep his word. He'll murder anyone in his way, including family members. He starves his own people and doesn't consider them whatsoever. The sanctions were to starve and isolate HIM, with the unfortunate effect of doing the same to his people.

Kim will NEVER give up his nukes because they are his ticket to survival. As long as he has them, he feels relatively safe from the world attempting to take him out. He's well guarded and he's ruthless, as dictators must be to survive. We cannot appeal to his "better nature" because it's non-existent, from all appearances.

tRUMP has accomplished NOTHING with him aside of giving Kim a place on the world stage, denied to him (and his forebears) completely. NOW, he's got a platform and he's on a roll taking advantage of it. His goal is to do exactly what his father/grandfather did, which is trick us all into loosening sanctions, restoring normal relations, and allowing NK to participate in normal world relations, including trade and imports. THEN he'll return to his previous behavior, threatening the world, starving his people, and threatening SK.

Right now, he's playing games with SK, pretending to be interested in actual peace. Truth is, he's interested in SURVIVING. That's the consensus of most of the world, aside of tRUMP.

  • We Are Not The World PoliceAmadeus, Tue Sep 25 3:22pm
    That is another discussion altogether. I don't approve of Kim, but he is the leader of North Korea. So, we have to suck it up and deal with him and his regime. Amadeus
    • I think the point about murdering his uncle was showing that — Sia☺giah, Wed Sep 26 12:36am
      • *shrug*Amadeus, Wed Sep 26 4:27pm
        My point remains. When he took power, he gave a speech to his nation about how the nation would direct all its effort toward getting their nuclear missile program accelerated. Just recently, he gave... more
        • "We have to deal with him as he is"HeavyHemi, Wed Sep 26 9:41pm
          Indeed my precise point in citing murdering his Uncle and assorted other 'threat'. Apparently the disagreement, is I and apparently Sia believe he's a murderous despot...based on...well the fact that ... more
          • Murder Most FoulAmadeus, Wed Sep 26 10:04pm
            You know, I was preparing a response on the impact of the murder of his uncle on my perception of Kim as "evil" and on the variations in type of evil that we see. But I wanted some context, because I ... more
        • I don't disagree with your major points... Sia☺giah, Wed Sep 26 5:30pm
          I was only trying to explain where HE was coming from is all.
    • I simply disagree with you in trusting Kim and stated succinctly why. I didn't say you 'approved' of Kim. Obviously we have to deal with "what is". It is so odd reading replies that have really... more
      • Not Again...Amadeus, Tue Sep 25 10:31pm
        HeavyHemi 'Kim has announced...." Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:12pm He also murdered his close family...perhaps even after announcing to them....I don't not expect sane or logic from that regime.... more
        • And there you go again.HeavyHemi, Tue Sep 25 10:40pm
          Holy cow, you're nearly pathological to go to that much trouble to INSIST I DO NOT MEAN EXACTLY AS LITTLE AS I POSTED. Apparently you believe I'm party do some detailed debate you're having in your... more
          • There's no need to drag it out. Obviously, there's an undercurrent of conflict and communication issues. Please try to put aside the negative expectations and look for the good? You could have some... more
            • I'm Aware Of It Now...Amadeus, Tue Sep 25 11:12pm
              And believe me, I'm not interested in a repeat. Amadeus
              • Neither was I...HeavyHemi, Tue Sep 25 11:26pm
                But I'd say your paragraph after paragraph would argue otherwise, again. I don't know is this you trying to paint me as the bad guy...again. Pfffft.
                • other. You come at topics with extremely different ways of expressing yourself that seem to confuse and annoy the other. That's really sad because I think you are both extremely smart and you both... more
                  • I thought you and I were pretty precise and clear.HeavyHemi, Wed Sep 26 12:57am
                    He said "Kim has actually announced to his government and people that they are going to turn their efforts toward rebuilding their economy and away from their nuclear missile program. I think he'll... more
                    • For Pete's Sake...Amadeus, Wed Sep 26 1:07am
                      I hadn't even HEARD about his uncle. I thought you were referring to some other incident a couple of years ago. YOUR INTELLIGENCE IS NOT BEING INSULTED. STOP WEARING YOUR HEART ON YOUR SLEEVE. Let it ... more
                • Peace (nm)Amadeus, Wed Sep 26 12:27am
          • *boggle*Amadeus, Tue Sep 25 10:53pm
            Look. I'm not even having the same discussion as you seem to be having. You're welcome to have your discussion. I'm not trying to change your mind. After the effort I put into our last... more
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