Sia☺giah
With Kim Jong Un, there is no point in direct challenges
Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:06pm
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because he is willing to go all out to preserve himself and his position, whatever that means. I don't think he WANTS to go so far as waging actual nuclear war because he and his entire kingdom will be wiped out within minutes. However, to do so is a game of "chicken" where each side goes to the edge of annihilation in an attempt to force the other to blink. NOT GOOD.

OTOH, if anyone thinks that they CAN "manipulate" Kim to get what they want, then they are playing with fire because he is NO fool and he's not really crazy, as in out of his mind, but crazy as in paranoid about his personal safety and security.

The ONLY way to deal with Kim is to acknowledge those parameters and to offer him something he considers of VALUE in exchange for something we value, but not to give it to him until we can VERIFY we've gotten ours. Anything else is a fool's mission because it will either bring us to the brink of war OR he'll simply play with us as his father and grandfather did for decades.

  • My point remains the same. We get further by manipulating him than we do by directly challenging him. The rest I don't think we disagree on much. Amadeus
    • With Kim Jong Un, there is no point in direct challenges — Sia☺giah, Thu Sep 27 11:06pm
    • I got your point the first time you made it.HeavyHemi, Thu Sep 27 12:29pm
      Again, it's like your argument is 'you're barely literate and can't comprehend simple English'. This, despite DAYS of my acknowledging your precise point. You refuse to acknowledge our point in that... more
      • HeavyHemi, Please...Amadeus, Thu Sep 27 1:53pm
        If I was the kind of person that felt that insulting someone was a valid strategy in a debate, I would be much more up front about it. In this particular case, my confusion over your post left me... more
        • Ahhh, Now I see it... Sia☺giah, Thu Sep 27 11:20pm
          I was never suggesting that confrontation or challenging Kim was the preferred manner of dealing with Kim Jong Un, and I believe that HH agrees with that. We were both saying that attempting to... more
        • you cannot accept constructive criticism of your style. Lets list your mistakes in reading what I posted. "I'm not trying to mock you." I did not say you were mocking ME, I specifically said MY... more
          • I'll Do This IntentionallyAmadeus, Thu Sep 27 3:52pm
            Let's dive deeper. Why would a person mock another person's arguments if not to mock the person making them? Indeed, you've accused me of insulting you over and over again. My reassurance was a... more
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