Civilized General Discussion - They get to appoint their electors according to how the

LEGISLATURE directs (IOW, congress?… or they can decide how they CHOOSE their own electors.) I didn't even mention how they CHOOSE electors and don't especially care how.

Each state doesn't get to decide how many electors they get, only how they choose them.

What it doesn't say is that they may COUNT them any way they want, which is what I was talking about when I discussed how they are AWARDED (to whomever won them or winner take all) As a matter of fact, they were ORIGINALLY counted individually in the way I said it was set up to be done so that NO state was red or blue, but purple. For CONVENIENCE, most states eventually changed it to winner takes all, but it was NOT written that way.

A reading of the Constitution indicates that the Founders... — SES, Mon Nov 5 2:19pm

actually DID leave it to the States to determine how their Electors would be selected. "Each State shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct , a number of Electors...." The... more
- They get to appoint their electors according to how the — Sia☺giah, Mon Nov 5 7:47pm
- - I can QUOTE the US Constitution. Can you? — SES, Tue Nov 6 9:00am
    
    "Each State shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct , a number of Electors...." Now, what do you think "THE LEGISLATURE THEREOF " means? It means each State may decide all ... more
  - As I recall it, though admittedly it has been — Sprout, Tue Nov 6 8:27am
    
    quite a few years since I was in school, it was the STATE legislature that assigns the electors. And in the beginning, the electors themselves had quite a bit more power than they do now as I recall. ... more
  - - Are the words APPOINT and COUNT too difficult to define ? — Sia☺giah, Tue Nov 6 9:53am
      
      No flippin' kidding the states get to choose whomever they want to be their electors... However, they CAN'T decide how many they get and, ORIGINALLY, electors represented certain voters in certain... more
    - - I guess we're talking past each other. I haven't talked... — SES, Tue Nov 6 10:15am
        
        ...about how many Electors each State GETS. THAT is, of course, explicitly stated in the US Constitution. All I've talked about is how each State SELECTS the Electors that the US Constitution says... more
    - It's interesting t contrast the thinking back then to the... — SES, Tue Nov 6 9:21am
      
      ...thinking of many today. Back then, it was the intent to have a small Federal government, that only dealt with things that had to be dealt with at the Federal level - international trade, national... more
    - - Since those electors are the way the POTUS is chosen — Sia☺giah, Tue Nov 6 10:06am
        
        YEAH, it makes sense that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT has PLENTY of say in how it all works. NO STATE gets to decide how many electors they get. They can only decide who to choose to be electors. The... more
      - I'll ask you what I asked jb on the R&E page. — SES, Tue Nov 6 10:22am
        
        Quote Chapter and Verse of the US Constitution that you thinks dictates that the Electors appointed by the States are free to vote for whomever they choose. That's just factually incorrect. If you... more
      - IMO for many it has become essentially a presumption — Sprout, Tue Nov 6 9:44am
        
        that if something should be done, it should be done federally. IMO for many the very IDEA of states having any role other than essentially symbolic is simply confusing. And I'm not just talking about ... more
- The Founders Also Distrusted Political Parties... — Amadeus, Mon Nov 5 5:00pm
  
  ...and didn't want to empower them. But look what happened. I think we should not be afraid to fix what's broken. It certainly didn't stop the Founders, and they were up against Divine Writ, you... more

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