Amadeus
Election Night Rumination...
Wed Nov 7, 2018 1:04am
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I think it is silly to think Beto O'Rourke should run for president. Yes, he's energetic, appealing, and popular, but he doesn't have the national profile. I think he'd end up undermining the ticket. But as a vice presidential nominee? He'd have the never-ending energy for campaign event after campaign event, he'd be a politician from a large, important state without pulling him out of any national level office.

I know he wants to take some time to absorb the loss to Cruz - he ran a great race.

Amadeus

    • What's the national significance of the Governors' races? — SES, Wed Nov 7 9:22am
      Obviously, the House and Senate races have national significance. But I really don't get why the Governors' races are significant beyond the individual States. I'm not sure how many House seats the... more
    • Well... Truth be told, Obama had no national profile — Sprout, Wed Nov 7 8:43am
      whatsoever until he was selected to run. I think that is one of the reasons he won. He was able to present himself as a new face. As being NOT just the next Democrat in line for a nomination. The... more
      • Obama had made a HUGE splash at the 2004 convention — Sia☺giah, Wed Nov 7 7:08pm
        with his speech. He wasn't WELL KNOWN nationally, but he most certainly was known throughout the political world prior to running for POTUS. He'd also been in politics for about 6 years as a state... more
      • I'd Like To See... — Amadeus, Wed Nov 7 9:56am
        ...a Sanders-O'Rourke or a Warren-O'Rourke ticket. I heard that Sanders and Warren were going to meet and discuss the presidential run. My guess is that if Warren wants to run, Sanders will not run... more
        • IMO the DNC tried hard to run Hillary — Sprout, Wed Nov 7 11:57am
          essentially unopposed during primary season to avoid any negativit7y and was quite upset that Sanders wouldn't play along. IMO they will probably TRY that again, but as you say, there may be... more
          • I Think With Warren/Sanders, It Is A Bit Different... — Amadeus, Wed Nov 7 1:56pm
            Sanders v Clinton was a significant difference in platform. Warren and Sanders aren't as different. They would be worried about splitting the progressives in the primaries, and they would be right to ... more
            • Warren is a phoney progressive, imo. — Poppet, Wed Nov 7 3:41pm
              In 2016, she went running to embrace the corporatist wing of the party as soon as it was obvious that was where her personal political future would be better served. I wouldn't trust her any farther... more
              • Maybe I Am Not Remembering Correctly... — Amadeus, Wed Nov 7 4:49pm
                ...but I thought Warren held out for a relatively long time before endorsing. Maybe that isn't right, though. I don't remember it clearly. I would say that Warren is more pragmatic than Sanders. Not... more
              • I don't care for Sanders either. — HeavyHemi, Wed Nov 7 4:17pm
                Lifetime politician...who would be an octogenarian in office...no thanks. He's got some good ideas, and some bad. (IMO of course)
                • His age is a real concern with me. — Poppet, Wed Nov 7 4:36pm
                  Not that I think he's not mentally sharp, etc. But that job ages people, and I could see it killing him (or hastening the onset of age-related cognitive issues). I'm not on board with all of Bernie's ... more
            • I think the DNC is a bit more practical than that... — Sprout, Wed Nov 7 2:13pm
              I don't think they are overly worried about ideology, but about WINNING... And if Warren and Sanders run AGAINST each other in the primaries they are GOING to end up telling the primary voters why... more
              • It's Not The DNC... — Amadeus, Wed Nov 7 2:21pm
                This is about the progressives recognizing that the DNC is not their friend. We know that if there are two really good progressive candidates out there, they'll split progressive votes. If the... more
                • "Progressives" don't hold primaries... — Sprout, Wed Nov 7 2:35pm
                  Therefore it IS about what the DNC does. Because it is the PARTY that holds the primaries. And until there is a VIABLE party known as the "Progressive Party" it will remain the DNC that matters. The... more
                  • No, It Isn't About What The DNC Does... — Amadeus, Wed Nov 7 4:43pm
                    They got slapped hard for what they did last time. Changes were implemented. The field is much wider this time. Many names are already out there. And my point was that progressives don't have their... more
                    • I don't think so... — Sprout, Thu Nov 8 9:09am
                      They got yelled at. But the "progressives" can't run a candidate without the establishment. Yes, they made some changes, but do you REALLY think they are going to give up control? The REAL heart of... more
    • I agree... (nm) — donk, Wed Nov 7 8:36am