Warren is a phoney progressive, imo.
Wed Nov 7, 2018 3:41pm

In 2016, she went running to embrace the corporatist wing of the party as soon as it was obvious that was where her personal political future would be better served. I wouldn't trust her any farther than I could comfortably spit a Buick. She's rather like Hillary in that there's no way in hell I'll vote for her in the GE unless the race in Oregon is actually in question.

Sanders, otoh, is someone I've supported with my own money and will gladly do so again.

  • Sanders v Clinton was a significant difference in platform. Warren and Sanders aren't as different. They would be worried about splitting the progressives in the primaries, and they would be right to ... more
    • Warren is a phoney progressive, imo. — Poppet, Wed Nov 7 3:41pm
      • Maybe I Am Not Remembering Correctly...Amadeus, Wed Nov 7 4:49pm
        ...but I thought Warren held out for a relatively long time before endorsing. Maybe that isn't right, though. I don't remember it clearly. I would say that Warren is more pragmatic than Sanders. Not... more
      • I don't care for Sanders either.HeavyHemi, Wed Nov 7 4:17pm
        Lifetime politician...who would be an octogenarian in office...no thanks. He's got some good ideas, and some bad. (IMO of course)
        • His age is a real concern with me.Poppet, Wed Nov 7 4:36pm
          Not that I think he's not mentally sharp, etc. But that job ages people, and I could see it killing him (or hastening the onset of age-related cognitive issues). I'm not on board with all of Bernie's ... more
    • I don't think they are overly worried about ideology, but about WINNING... And if Warren and Sanders run AGAINST each other in the primaries they are GOING to end up telling the primary voters why... more
      • It's Not The DNC...Amadeus, Wed Nov 7 2:21pm
        This is about the progressives recognizing that the DNC is not their friend. We know that if there are two really good progressive candidates out there, they'll split progressive votes. If the... more
        • "Progressives" don't hold primaries...Sprout, Wed Nov 7 2:35pm
          Therefore it IS about what the DNC does. Because it is the PARTY that holds the primaries. And until there is a VIABLE party known as the "Progressive Party" it will remain the DNC that matters. The... more
          • No, It Isn't About What The DNC Does...Amadeus, Wed Nov 7 4:43pm
            They got slapped hard for what they did last time. Changes were implemented. The field is much wider this time. Many names are already out there. And my point was that progressives don't have their... more
            • I don't think so...Sprout, Thu Nov 8 9:09am
              They got yelled at. But the "progressives" can't run a candidate without the establishment. Yes, they made some changes, but do you REALLY think they are going to give up control? The REAL heart of... more