Technically correct
Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:26pm

...and I was in error in saying that he'd demanded a 2000-mile wall, as I've noted to SES.

He wants to fill in areas not already 'protected' with a wall, a much shorter length. However, the final effect would be to have wall or fencing along the entire border, so that's kind of moot.

Most Dems advocate border security. So do I. But a wall alone doesn't 'secure' the border, nor does it prevent illegal immigration, most of which results from visa overstays, not border crossings.

Probably Obama and former Presidents don't like Trump's lies, border confrontations, illegal detentions, etc. You think?

I'd also wonder why Trump and Republicans have done NOTHING about immigration in Congress for two years, but are now blaming Democrats for 'stonewalling' on this issue, which they are using to arouse their unwashed supporters.

  • he wants a wall over every single foot of the border. You are the one making the claim about what he has said. Back it up. In fact MOST Dems, including President Obama and Chuck Schumer have LONG... more
    • Technically correct — greenman, Mon Jan 14 4:26pm
      • Again, please offer us a quote whereSprout, Mon Jan 14 4:46pm
        he actually STATES that the end state is to be a wall the full length of the border. No one is suggesting that physical barriers be the ONLY method. Everyone understands that the wall ALONE will not... more
        • Nogreenman, Mon Jan 14 4:52pm
          I never said that he literally said that, so how could I "provide a quote?" The end result of filling in the non-fenced/walled spaces would be a wall along the length of the border. Do you deny that? ... more
          • would be a wall from coast to coast. No one denies that fact. Yet the fact that a wall from coast to coast is a wall from coast to coast has no bearing on the CLAIM that is the INTENT.
            • lol....good ol' Sproutgreenman, Tue Jan 15 11:41am
              Still quibbling over trivia like an ol' dog chewing that bone. Your post is nonsense. Dismissed.
            • This crisis is entirely invented by Trump. It is a lie. By supporting it, you are supporting the lie. These are facts Spout. Now tell us why you support the lie. Tic toc.
        • He now admits Trump's security crisis on the boarder is invented. I use this as my evidence "4. And of course, just because the numbers of people TRYING to get across is down, that doesn't mean that... more
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