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The length of the wall has changed a LOT over time
Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:31pm
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In fact, at one time, early on in tRUMP's administration, they were talking about one 1,827 miles long.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-trump-mexico-wall/img/social/how-long-would-the-wall-be/

Hereís What We Know About Trumpís Mexico Wall


Published: February 13, 2017 | Last updated: December 11, 2017

President Donald Trump has directed the Department of Homeland Security to carry out one of his more prominent campaign promises: to build a wall on the U.S. border with Mexico. In October, signs of progress emerged—a handful of 30-foot-tall prototypes at a construction site near San Diego. But large questions still loom, like how much the wall will cost and who pays for it. Based on what we know so far, here are answers about how the project could move forward.

How long would the wall be?


The wall will most likely cover 700 to 900 miles, with additional tech-based solutions for non-walled stretches.

The length of the wall itself has been the subject of mixed messages from the Trump administration. In March, Customs and Border Protection told the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee that 1,827 miles of the border could contain a physical barrier. This would cover the extent of the currently un-walled portion of the U.S.-Mexico border.

In April, then Homeland Security Secretary Director John Kelly told a Senate committee that ďit is unlikely that we will build a physical wall from sea to shining sea.Ē Kelly told the committee that sensors, drones and other technology could substitute for a physical wall along certain sections of the border. Kelly currently serves as President Trumpís Chief of Staff.

In July, Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One, ďItís a 2,000-mile border, but you donít need 2,000 miles of wall because you have a lot of natural barriers. You have mountains. You have some rivers that are violent and vicious. You have some areas that are so far away that you donít really have people crossing.Ē


What does the U.S.-Mexico border look like right now?



The border is almost 2,000 miles long, two-thirds of which tracks the Rio Grande River.

Land along the border cuts through cities, including San Ysidro, California, and El Paso, Texas, as well as rural farmland, desert, arroyos, craggy mountains and wildlife reserves.†The border features an array of existing fencing, more than 30 border patrol stations and 25 legal ports of entry.



Where are border barriers already in place?



Barriers span 653 miles of the U.S.-Mexico border, mostly along the western half.

Much of the southern borders of California, Arizona and New Mexico have existing barriers, ranging from 18-foot-tall iron fencing and corrugated metal to makeshift vehicle barriers and barbed wire.

Existing Barriers Along Southwest Border



Sources: Center for Investigative Reporting, U.S. Customs and Border Protection

How many people cross illegally into the U.S. from Mexico?



Itís hard to say. There were 303,916 border apprehensions in the southwest U.S. during fiscal 2017óa 26 percent drop from 2016. A large number of those apprehensions were people presenting themselves to border agents and seeking asylum.

Thatís according to U.S. Border Patrol figures, and it also includes people who were caught multiple times. Apprehensions plummeted following the November election, and migration policy experts cited strong enforcement rhetoric from the Trump administration as the primary cause. In recent months, apprehensions have risen to more typical levels.

Itís less clear how many successfully cross the border. Customs & Border Patrol tries to estimate the total based on surveillance footage, evidence of movement (e.g., footprints, overturned rocks, litter) and reports from local residents. In fiscal year 2015, Border Patrol claimed an 81 percent success rate in apprehending or turning back people who attempted to cross illegally.

Apprehensions Have Plummeted Since 2000



Source: U.S. Customs and Border Protection

Outside estimates are less rosy. In a 2013 report, the Council on Foreign Relations estimated that Border Patrolís success rate was in the 40 percent to 55 percent range. The Institute for Defense Analyses, a nonprofit, nonpartisan research group that works solely for U.S. government agencies, estimates that about 200,000 people made it across in 2015ódown from an estimated 2 million entries in 2000.

Where are people crossing illegally into the U.S.?



Nearly half of all border apprehensions occur near the southernmost tip of Texas.

The area, known as the Rio Grande Valley Border Patrol Sector, accounted for 45 percent of all apprehensions in fiscal 2017. From 1998 to 2012, most apprehensions occurred near Tucson, Arizona. Much of Arizonaís southern border is now fenced off. That has significantly reduced crossings there but led to increased crossings further east, in Texas.

Apprehensions At U.S. Border Patrol Sectors in Fiscal 2017



Source: U.S. Customs and Border Protection

Who put up the current border barriers?



Most of the existing border fence was built after 2006, under President George W. Bush.

Federally funded construction began in the 1990s, when 14 miles of fencing was built along the California border during the George H.W. Bush and Clinton administrations. The barriers targeted border crossers between Tijuana, Mexico, and San Diego.

In 2006, George W. Bush signed the Secure Fence Act, which ultimately led to construction of 653 miles of reinforced fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border. The Department of Homeland Security had finished most of the fencing by the time President Barack Obama took office in 2009, but the agency still has 47 miles of authorized, unfinished fencing to be constructed.

Trump has cited the Secure Fence Act as the legal authority to restart the work on border barriers. According to the Texas Observer, the Trump administration has already begun preparing portions of federally-owned land in South Texas for border construction. The story cited a federal official who said construction could begin as early as January 2018.



There is a TON MORE INFORMATION at the link, including prototypes, expected costs, polls showing that the majority of Americans do NOT support the wall, and so on. WAY too long to post in its entirety here, but in the interest of FULL disclosure, you can see the entire page here: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-trump-mexico-wall/img/social/how-long-would-the-wall-be/



  • No one other than Trump?greenman, Mon Jan 14 12:10pm
    He's never suggested anything but a wall that blocks the ENTIRE border. As I've already challenged SES, prove me wrong. Trump has certainly implied that the wall will solve our illegal immigration... more
    • The length of the wall has changed a LOT over time — Sia☺giah, Mon Jan 14 8:31pm
    • he wants a wall over every single foot of the border. You are the one making the claim about what he has said. Back it up. In fact MOST Dems, including President Obama and Chuck Schumer have LONG... more
      • Technically correctgreenman, Mon Jan 14 4:26pm
        ...and I was in error in saying that he'd demanded a 2000-mile wall, as I've noted to SES. He wants to fill in areas not already 'protected' with a wall, a much shorter length. However, the final... more
        • Again, please offer us a quote whereSprout, Mon Jan 14 4:46pm
          he actually STATES that the end state is to be a wall the full length of the border. No one is suggesting that physical barriers be the ONLY method. Everyone understands that the wall ALONE will not... more
          • Nogreenman, Mon Jan 14 4:52pm
            I never said that he literally said that, so how could I "provide a quote?" The end result of filling in the non-fenced/walled spaces would be a wall along the length of the border. Do you deny that? ... more
            • would be a wall from coast to coast. No one denies that fact. Yet the fact that a wall from coast to coast is a wall from coast to coast has no bearing on the CLAIM that is the INTENT.
              • lol....good ol' Sproutgreenman, Tue Jan 15 11:41am
                Still quibbling over trivia like an ol' dog chewing that bone. Your post is nonsense. Dismissed.
              • This crisis is entirely invented by Trump. It is a lie. By supporting it, you are supporting the lie. These are facts Spout. Now tell us why you support the lie. Tic toc.
          • He now admits Trump's security crisis on the boarder is invented. I use this as my evidence "4. And of course, just because the numbers of people TRYING to get across is down, that doesn't mean that... more
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