What you seem to be missing....
Fri Feb 8, 2019 9:44am

is that the presence of a firearm in active shooter situations IS a threat, especially when the police don't know who the actual shooter is when they enter the scene. It doesn't matter how much training they have, that will always be the case. And, it would be almost impossible for the individual who was trying to subdue the active shooter to "be careful" when the police come up behind him and mistakenly shoot him.

In short, the presence and prevalence of guns IS a threat, and it is one of those problems that is a vicious cycle and hard to break out of. People want to protect themselves and help others, and the police also want to protect themselves and others, and when split second decisions are critical to survival, mistakes will be made... regardless of training and regardless what the legalities are of civilians carrying firearms.

  • As well as in the other case...Sprout, Fri Feb 8 9:22am
    The private security guard who was also shot for having a gun in his hand while trying to handle the ACTUAL threat. Yes, it is critical for ANYONE armed to be careful when dealing with police. The... more
    • What you seem to be missing.... — wondering, Fri Feb 8 9:44am
      • because while it COULD be a threat, it ALSO COULD be carried by a plainclothes police officer, an off duty police officer, a federal agent, or even a law abiding licensed civilian. NONE of which... more
        • as a citizen who carries a firearm. I can certainly understand that you would like for the police to be more careful before they shoot someone who has a firearm whether it is in an active shooter... more
          • I do see it through my own perspective being that I have BEEN on both sides of the gun. I have been both the unarmed civilian AND the guy carrying a gun both as a civilian and as a member of the... more
            • Apples to Oranges....wondering, Fri Feb 8 6:48pm
              How many times did you as a soldier have to go into a situation where there were active shooters? Probably not that often. There may be some similarities, though. Both police and soldiers typically... more
              • I don't think it is...Sprout, Sun Feb 10 4:49pm
                How many times do officers go into active shooter situations (since you seem to want to limit discussion to them)? Probably not that often. Both police and soldiers typically wear uniforms. Both are... more
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