Sprout
No it is not... It COULD be, but it is not automatically so.
Fri Feb 8, 2019 10:11am
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because while it COULD be a threat, it ALSO COULD be carried by a plainclothes police officer, an off duty police officer, a federal agent, or even a law abiding licensed civilian. NONE of which represent a threat.

That is the point I have been trying to make. That certainly it is EASY to PRESUME a threat when you don't KNOW one exists, but it is the DUTY of both a soldier and a police officer to IDENTIFY their target not JUST identify a weapon.

Yes, I agree that it is almost impossible for the off duty FBI agent who is trying to subdue the active shooter to "be careful" when the police come up behind him and mistakenly shoot him. Which is why it is CRITICAL that the police DO NOT just shoot anyone with a gun.

Yes, I recognize that the police don't know who the criminal is when they enter the scene. That means they must be MORE discriminating with regards to who they shoot. Not less.


  • What you seem to be missing....wondering, Fri Feb 8 9:44am
    is that the presence of a firearm in active shooter situations IS a threat, especially when the police don't know who the actual shooter is when they enter the scene. It doesn't matter how much... more
    • No it is not... It COULD be, but it is not automatically so. — Sprout, Fri Feb 8 10:11am
      • as a citizen who carries a firearm. I can certainly understand that you would like for the police to be more careful before they shoot someone who has a firearm whether it is in an active shooter... more
        • I do see it through my own perspective being that I have BEEN on both sides of the gun. I have been both the unarmed civilian AND the guy carrying a gun both as a civilian and as a member of the... more
          • Apples to Oranges....wondering, Fri Feb 8 6:48pm
            How many times did you as a soldier have to go into a situation where there were active shooters? Probably not that often. There may be some similarities, though. Both police and soldiers typically... more
            • I don't think it is...Sprout, Sun Feb 10 4:49pm
              How many times do officers go into active shooter situations (since you seem to want to limit discussion to them)? Probably not that often. Both police and soldiers typically wear uniforms. Both are... more
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