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Do my own research on the El Paso Border Wall
Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:50pm
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The Border Wall in El Paso was constructed (as best as I can tell) in 2008/2009.

This website provides a "Crime Index" for El Paso, by year, from 2002 to 2016. It's based on the number
of murders, rapes, robberies, assaults, burglaries, thefts, auto-thefts, and robberies.

The U.S. average is 280.5, assuming that holds true for every year of data.

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-El-Paso-Texas.html

So for El Paso, Texas:

2002: 364.4 (83.9 points worse than the average U.S. City)
2003: 343.6
2004: 318.9
2005: 286.7
2006: 286.1
2007: 279.5 (slightly below the average)
2008: 279.3 [wall construction]
2009: 261.5 [wall construction]
2010: 248.8
2011: 232.9
2012: 226.2
2013: 203.2
2014: 217.2
2015: 199.3
2016: 199.7

From that we can conclude that:

1. El Paso was worse than the average U.S. city in crime from 2002 to 2006.
2. The crime rate was dropping each year before the wall was built.
3. El Paso didn't drop well below the U.S. for crime until after the wall was built (not saying that the wall was the reason, just that the numbers say so).
4. The crime rate is now 79.8 points LOWER than it was the year before wall construction began.

Just sayin'.

    • Crime was dropping for yearsgreenman, Wed Feb 13 2:59pm
      ...before their bit of wall, and continued to drop, as did the national average. But you pretend it's all about a bit of wall. Typical.
      • DELETEDSES IS ON VACATION, Wed Feb 13 3:12pm
        SES was put on vacation. Every time he posts illegally by switching IPs, he adds a day to his sentence. He's added 1 additional day so far.
        • You SAID thatgreenman, Wed Feb 13 3:39pm
          ...and then ignored it to say: "El Paso didn't drop well below the U.S. for crime until after the wall was built (not saying that the wall was the reason, just that the numbers say so)." The numbers... more
    • Not true.Sia☺giah, Tue Feb 12 5:50pm
      https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2019/feb/08/donald-trump/no-border-barrier-did-not-drive-down-crime-el-paso/
      • deletedSES IS ON VACATION, Wed Feb 13 3:11pm
        SES was put on vacation. Every time he posts illegally by switching IPs, he adds a day to his sentence. He's added 2 additional days so far.
    • We can't derive anything since they don't cite their sources.
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