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Lewis
BTW, Mike -
Sun Aug 7, 2011 10:39pm
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Most oil doesn't travel in pipelines (although a lot does). Some of it is carried by over-the-road transport trucks, and some by railroad tanker cars.

Ocean-going tankers have a problem navigating the inland traffic.

  • Off shore drilling is cheaperMike, Sun Aug 7 10:05pm
    No mineral rights contracts to buy. No pipeline to lay. Drilling platforms are mobile. Tankers don't need to navigate extra distances to fill up. Those capped off wells are most likely tapped out... more
    • and its also very dangerousmatthew, Sun Aug 14 1:24pm
      luckily the pressure of the oil well in mexico was low and the weather calm, else they might have not been able to cap it.....and u can imagine a few hundred billion barrels spewing out into the... more
      • Gentlemen, a WOOD fire is dangerousLewis, Wed Aug 17 7:14am
        The native bush people in Australia have so frequently set the bush ablaze that the place has gotten used to it - in fact, there are trees that will not germinate unless they ARE exposed to fire. If... more
      • That is trueMike, Tue Aug 16 11:04pm
        But the oil companies don't care about the environment. They are in it for profit and they must remain competitive with the many others that are drilling off shore.
      • I sometimes wonder about thatLewis, Mon Aug 15 8:12am
        Oil isn't made and then inflicted on nature by man; it's a natural substance, and nature knows how to deal with it. There are many places on earth where oil spurts up, without any wells having been... more
        • Yes, nature does deal with itMike, Tue Aug 16 11:32pm
          It's really a matter of balance. Oil does seep on it's own from below and is eventually dispersed and eaten up. However, a full blown large well that is emptied into the ocean in a short amount of... more
          • Yes, that's true tooLewis, Wed Aug 17 7:19am
            But then oil from a British rig intended for the US is no more noxious than oil from a Chinese rig intended for China - and our seaboard (Atlantic and Gulf) is littered with oil rigs of other... more
    • BTW, Mike - — Lewis, Sun Aug 7 10:39pm
      • It dpends on the location of the wellMike, Wed Aug 17 12:17am
        Pipelines are the most efficient. The point is that you need transport this oil to the freighter from the well, where as you don't need to with off-shore wells.
        • You don't have to put it in a freighterLewis, Wed Aug 17 7:31am
          You put it in railway tank cars - @ 50 or 60 per train - and haul it overland. As we now do. Put it in a ship and it's very, very close to the water - so that a storm or other adverse action can sink ... more
          • They could have just used railway cars instead? Railroading oil is not always practical. A super tanker can hold more than 4 million barrels. One railway tanker car holds about 700 barrels, and at... more
            • And how many trains in a day?Lewis, Thu Aug 18 10:37am
              Just as tankers have a hard time navigating inland, away from the water - railway capacity doesn't exist (yet)in Prudhoe bay. We have our refineries ALMOST exclusively on the water - but should not.... more
    • By no means.Lewis, Sun Aug 7 10:33pm
      Once the oil reaches shore from the off-shore rig, then you still have the same problem with pipelines and other transport. Wells tapped out? Sorry - I know something about that. My wife's family (a... more
      • Re: By no means.Mike, Wed Aug 17 12:00am
        Of course you need transport for land distribution, but you don't need any other transport other than the freighter itself to fill up off-shore. It fills up right at the source. Oil from on-shore... more
      • It's all about liberal beaurocracyLewis, Mon Aug 8 9:35am
        Liberals love excessive regulation, and the oil business if a prime example thereof. You have permits for EXPLORATION, and then permits for pumping. In 1985, or there about, an oil company tracked us ... more
        • So liberals caused that?Mike, Wed Aug 17 12:37am
          The oil companies couldn't meet their deadlines and it is the fault of the liberals? I know you want to defend them at all costs, but they're all doing just fine, still making RECORD profits. However ... more
          • As a matter of fact - yes.Lewis, Wed Aug 17 7:23am
            They didn't meet their deadlines because of having to comply with unnecessarily restrictive and complex regulations - put in place by liberals. This country, remember, is actually run more by the... more
        • Re: It's all about liberal beaurocracyC, Sat Aug 13 12:26am
          Lewis how bout we just shut em all down, make the unions and demos go broke. It's happening today.
          • Go broke?Lewis, Sun Aug 14 9:51am
            They'll never go broke; they're tapped into the taxpayers' arteries. They'll run the TAXPAYERS broke, of course - in fact, they already have.
            • You wanna play? You gotta pay!Mike, Wed Aug 17 12:51am
              It's as simple as that.
              • Exactly the point.Lewis, Wed Aug 17 7:34am
                Boot their asses out and send them home - about 80% of our swollen government is not only not required by our constitution - most of the surplus is actually unconstitutional and totally unnecessary.
                • Here's how -Lewis, Thu Aug 18 10:52am
                  Return to the individual sovereign states the power to do what they're supposed to do. We don't need federal education supervision; that's up to the states. Ditto labor relations. In fact - just... more
                • Sounds like a good planMike, Wed Aug 17 2:42pm
                  But it still doesn't solve the problem of not having enough revenue needed to pay for what you've already committed to. A tax increase is necessary. Even a $1.5T cut in the budget will not make it... more
                  • To solve a problem, do what's proven to workLewis, Thu Aug 18 10:46am
                    Previous administrations of BOTH liberals and conservatives have increased (almost doubled) total revenue by REDUCING taxes, not increasing them. When you take money out of the economy for taxes, it... more
                    • Correlation vs causation Mike, Thu Aug 18 5:50pm
                      You're only basing your theory on a period of a phony economic boom. Yes, revenue was up, taxes were low, unemployment was low, but what made it phony was that credit was cheap, risk-free, and... more
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