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Re: Moral differences between killings
Thu Jul 1, 2010 12:03
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This is where we totally disagree you see an execution as a moral killing its ok to execute where as i see all killings as immoral Dudley i do however understand where your coming from you take a life u lose your own life,i however feels it wrong to take a life full stop LWOP yes i believe in 100% they murder take there freedom until the day they die.I cant justify a killing Dudley on any grounds to me all life is a precious gift and by almost losing my own twice i no just how precious..

This world will always have bad people in it Dudley ppl who will rob,steal,rape and kill no matter how many inmates are executed its one of life's darker side's i would see the point if execution deters such behaviour but as you know it doesn't that's been proved and you also no not all on DR are guilty hun which means an innocent man (could be u one day or me)is either executed or spends decades on DR.If America feel so strongly that the DP is the only way to go it surely has to sort out its justice system ie allow all DNA testing etc none of this denying testing rubbish this is what annoys me with the USA justice system they deny the inmate the right to prove his innocence and also some inmates are convicted and sentenced to die with no evidence against them what so ever is that right?

I give u example, Preston hughesIII was convicted of murdering a girl he treated as a sister the victim was found alive and her last words were preston,He was arrested and his apartment searched here where it makes no sense to me at all..On searching his apartment they found what they say is the murder weapon it was sent for testing and come back positive for animal blood (he had been hunting rabbits) negative for human blood or DNA prosecutors say he washed the knife now if he has washed the knife surely there wound have been no animal blood present either? on the second illegal search of his apartment they found the victims eye glasses wedged between the cushions of his sofa the same eye glasses are clearly visible in the crime scene photos.Preston was found guilty and now sits on DR waiting execution i have managed to get David dow and his team to take on prestons case after a long struggle so im hoping justice can finally be done for him.....If i thought for one minute he was guilty Dudley i would not have asked anyone to help him i not a stupid woman Dudley i no there are guilty inmates who swear blind there innocent but there are also innocent inmates who badly need help to prove it and if i can save one of these inmates from execution then i will leave this world a very satisfied woman indeed!

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  • Pat, thank youDudley Sharp, Tue Jun 29 11:42
    As a general rule anti death penalty arguements are false or the pro death penalty position is stronger. Here are some resources. I hope they are helpful. Pro death penalty sites essays... more
    • Re: Pat, thank youxkittenx, Wed Jun 30 04:28
      Lmao typical Pat u just proved what ive said all along only pro DP are right what planet you on?
    • Re: Pat, thank youYvette Holden, Wed Jun 30 03:10
      Killing is wrong, civilized society should not execute its citizens. Dudley, judges and wardens once retired then admit there is no reason other than political to execute (or in your case for... more
      • Governments near perfection - protecting murderersDudley Sharp, Wed Jun 30 06:41
        As you well know, government officials whose ONLY job is to assess the ability of criminals to safely be in society are wrong about 60-80% of the time. These probationers, parolees and other early... more
        • The Death Penalty and Deterrence A September 2000 New York Times survey found that during the last 20 years, the homicide rate in states with the death penalty has been 48 to 101 percent higher than... more
          • concidence is all it is Petra , well if i was an anti DP advocate id search also for all sorts of hot air to support what i beleive in , but concidence is all it is , a killer doesn't really think... more
            • Pat, why deterrence mattersDudley Sharp, Fri Jul 2 09:34
              Many wrongly believe that gross murder rates are the manner in which we detect deterrence. It isn't, nor can it be, even though some social scientists and others use that barometer. For example,... more
              • Deterrence and counterdeterrencePortia, Sun Jun 3 07:26
                The recent study of the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) in the U.S.A. offers a balanced presentation of the evidence, or often the lack thereof, and rightly finds the results inconclusive as to... more
              • Facts about DeterencePetra, Sat Jul 3 14:31
                DETERRENCE The fourth in a series on death penalty issues (see also DPIC podcasts) It might seem that the prospect of receiving a death sentence would deter would-be murderers from committing such... more
                • Of course the death penalty detersDudley Sharp, Sat Jul 3 14:58
                  Reply to the Criminologists "Deterrence and the Death Penalty: A Reply to Radelet and Lacock"... more
                  • Re: Of course the death penalty detersxkittenx, Mon Jul 5 03:19
                    Dudley if it was a deterrent there would be no murders!!I read a survay done amongst police chiefs not that long ago and 78% said the death penalty did not deter offenders some said that they felt... more
                    • understanding deterrenceDudley Sharp, Mon Jul 5 07:53
                      Kitten, you don't understand deterrence. The foundation for deterrence is that the prospect of a negative outcome will have a conscious or subconscious affect on restraining the behavior that may... more
                      • Deterrence and the death penaltyPetra., Thu Apr 26 16:52
                        http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/crime_and_punishment/148952435.html Wednesday, April 25, 2012 | @ 5:24 PM Deterrence and the death penalty by JOSEPH SLOBODZIAN The death penalty: Deters people... more
                      • Re: understanding deterrencexkittenx, Tue Jul 6 18:53
                        Dudley everyone has there own opinion about the DP and what a fitting sentence is for murder the thing that gets me about you is no matter what inmate is mentioned you insist there guilty there is no ... more
                      • Re: understanding deterrencexkittenx, Mon Jul 5 08:54
                        Dudley i fully understand that but would LWOP not have same effect?
                        • execution vs life - deterrenceDudley Sharp, Mon Jul 5 10:09
                          All negative outcomes have similar effects in deterrence. It is unlikely that any two different prospects of a negative outcome have the exact same deterrent effect. They are different. However, was... more
                          • Re: execution vs life - deterrencexkittenx, Tue Jul 6 17:52
                            Dudley how can u say that LWOP wont have the same effect as execution?Its never been tried and if you ask any inmate who's sentence is LWOP the majority of them would tell you they would rather have... more
                            • Understanding deterrenceDudley Sharp, Wed Jul 7 05:51
                              We know the deterrent effects of execution are different than LWOP. As about, 99.9% of murderers subject to the death penalty fear life more than death and prefer life over death, and as most folks... more
                  • Human Rights Facts February 26, 2010 Filip Spagnoli Human Rights Facts (162): The Truth About the Deterrent Effect of the Death Penalty, Ctd. November 7, 2009 Filip Spagnoli Leave a comment Some more ... more
                    • Go to Petra's linkDudley Sharp, Sat Jul 3 18:03
                      I have corrected as much of the errors as I can. Some of the posts did not appear, though. http://filipspagnoli.wordpress.com/?s=%22Truth+About+the+Deterrent%22
                      • Re: Go to Petra's linkxkittenx, Mon Jul 5 03:26
                        Roflmao what did i tell you Petra Dudley would argue with your figures lol
                      • Re: Go to Petra's linkPetra, Sun Jul 4 16:18
                        I don’t think that those who believe in deterrence are willing to look. http://filipspagnoli.wordpress.com/?s=%22Truth+About+the+Deterrent%22
                        • Re: Go to Petra's linkxkittenx, Mon Jul 5 02:51
                          You do no that PRO DP especially Dudley will argue these figures are wrong dont you? lol
                    • All rebutted withinDudley Sharp, Sat Jul 3 17:39
                      Of course the death penalty deters — Dudley Sharp, Sat Jul 3 14:58
            • You don't stop murdering with the DP but spread the word as state that a human life can be killed with some circumstances. And you execute with a very questioned choice, when the state kills, it... more
        • US: Editorial: What courts are telling usPetra, Wed Jun 30 15:31
          Editorial: What courts are telling us StoryDiscussionPosted: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 If you’re looking for an indictment of one part of our judicial system, consider this opening sentence of a... more
      • Moral differences between killingsDudley Sharp, Wed Jun 30 06:27
        Yvette: I am not sure any anti on this board can make the moral distinction between the victim and the criminal, the innocent and the guilty, the crime and the punishment. That is what you antis do... more
        • Re: Moral differences between killings — xkittenx, Thu Jul 1 12:03
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