Seatweaving & Chair Caning Forum™ - Re: machine cane & glue

Hi David! It could be that the white glue wasn't applied heavily enough if it came loose. Also could be that the wrong size spline was used (too narrow).

I've always used Elmer's white glue for machine cane, and I've never had a problem with it. Larry is a "heavy glue-er," and I'm a much lighter glue-er, but we've not had a problem with seats that either of us has done.

My wood-worker tells me that the only difference between Elmer's white glue and Elmer's yellow (carpenter's) glue is the drying time. White glue dries faster. He uses all kinds of glues, so I'm guessing he knows where-of he speaks.

Mical Wilmoth Carton
Chrperson@aol.com
Baltimore, MD

Machine Cane Caning1023, Fri May 4 9:01am

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- Re: Machine Cane Mindy King - the chair weaver, Sun May 6 9:24am
  
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    - Re: machine cane & glue chrperson, Tue May 15 11:37am
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      - Thank you for this information~ A Cane Fixer Randy Keeling, Wed May 16 12:34am
        
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