johnk15
mixing stain
Fri May 10, 2013 12:45am
75.12.114.3

I've posted this before, here goes again. I also use minwax. I mix the stains from golden oak and one of the darker colors like jacobean. However, the natural patina that cane gets from aging has an orange component that you can't get from wood stains. So I mix a little oil based artist color into the stain. I start with a tablespoon of golden oak, a tablespoon of jacobean, a pencil erasure size lump of yellow and same of red, and a little thinner. That will give you enough for one chair. Mix well and try it on scraps of machine cane. Modify mix until you get one that matches.
Also, if you don't have to match, but just want to color the cane, minwax makes oil based spray stain and Mohawk makes lacquer spray stains. The extra effort needed to mask with blue tape and newspaper is well worth the better results. Warning!! Don't put tape on antique finishes. The finish will come off with the tape.

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    • Re: Staining and matching cane Mindy King - the chair weaver, Thu May 16 9:17pm
      I don't stir the can but rather use a paint stirrer stick to scrape up the concentrated pigment from the bottom. I then load a stiff brush with the concentrate and rub it into the cane. If it's a... more
    • mixing stain johnk15, Fri May 10 12:45am
      • Re: mixing stain Dan Alleger, Sat May 11 8:20am
        Great suggestion as well, and I'm sure the addition of the oil paints makes the mix easier to distribute evenly. Doesn't it take forever to dry? I use purple tape for masking dicey finishes; it's... more
    • Re: Staining and matching cane Dan Alleger, Wed May 8 6:28am
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      • Re: staining and matching cane woodbeth57, Tue Mar 21 4:43am
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        • Staining and color matching cane Marshall Knox, Wed Mar 22 7:56pm
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      • restaining a caned chair sara.m.batts, Sat Mar 11 2:52pm
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        • restaining a caned chair timtolzmann, Sun Mar 12 12:06pm
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        • restaining giola, Sun Mar 12 11:03am
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        • staining cane JIm Widess, Sun Mar 12 2:46am
          You could try stripping the stain from the cane with lacquer thinner.....then restaining the cane. jim@caning.com
          • Re: staining cane sara.m.batts, Sun Mar 12 12:32pm
            The thinner wouldn't damage the caning?
            • staining cane JIm Widess, Sun Mar 12 5:28pm
              The lacquer thinner shouldn't hurt the cane unless it's really thin and worn out in which case you'd be recaning the chair anyway. jim@caning.com
              • restaining a caned chair timtolzmann, Sun Mar 12 11:41pm
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      • Staining and atching cane rrc_1940, Wed May 8 11:57am
        I agree 100% with what Dan said about Minwax stains. I've had success matching (difficult) cane color by adding artist oil paint pigment to stains to get closer to the original color. Finding the... more
        • Re: Staining and atching cane The Wicker Woman, Thu May 9 7:37am
          I don't do that much cane staining, but when I do, I must confess the brand I typically use is Minwax. If I want a deeper, richer, fuller color to the cane, I scrape the bottom of the can and pull up ... more
          • Re: Staining and matching cane Jared Chafin, Thu May 9 7:47am
            Thanks to everyone for your suggestions and experience! Dan, I will definitely be trying your methods. I'll probably pick up the Rustoleum Gel Stain for a starter and try the more in-depth approach... more
    • Re: Staining and matching cane scwaspb, Tue May 7 3:58pm
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      • Staining and matching cane trees4277, Wed May 8 11:12pm
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        • staining and matching cane JIm Widess, Thu May 9 12:42pm
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          • Staining and matching cane trees4277, Sat May 11 11:45am
            After reading all the posts and reflecting on my past experience with lacquer, I'm more convinced than ever that "Friends don't let friends use lacquer on cane". Let me explain. I've caned and... more
            • staining and matching cane JIm Widess, Sat May 11 1:44pm
              Hi David. I maintain that the reason that those lacquer stained backs you described were so brittle because a heavy coat of lacquer was applied to the back of the cane and sealed up all the pores. I... more
              • staining and matching cane littlejackhorners, Sun May 12 7:59am
                I agree with Jim and use a similar method. We often need to color cane panels to match other chairs in a set. We use oil stains to start the coloring and follow with aerosol lacquer toners to blend... more
          • staining and matching Jared Chafin, Thu May 9 3:57pm
            Jim, I did try a can of the Mohawk toner. I guess it takes some practice. My spraying ability was found lacking and I had to replace the sheet of cane I had just installed.
            • Spraying Toner Steve ProFinisher, Sun May 12 12:42pm
              If you don't get the color you wanted, it is not necessary to replace the cane. It can be wiped off with a lint free rag and lacquer thinner. Be careful not to get the lacquer thinner on any of the... more
              • Re: Spraying Toner Dan Alleger, Sun May 12 5:29pm
                True, but it is all but impossible to get it out of every tiny crevice where the strands cross. Been there. A toothbrush helps. If you're going to spray toner, go lightly and build the color a little ... more
            • staining cane JIm Widess, Thu May 9 7:19pm
              Jared, set up an easel with a large piece of paper on it. Stand back about 2 feet. Make sure you have shaken the can thoroughly and can hear the ball rattle inside. Hold your spray can pointing about ... more
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