Cutting a new groove
Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:50pm
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Patti, thanks for reading and answering my question. So I have follow-up: Have you had experience with this not going well for you in the past? On what do you base your recommendation?

The break along the back is major---all the way across. The inside remaining wood is thin. The glue that is in there is visible (and clumpy)---meaning the wood wasn't clamped into place when the glue was applied. I would have to remove the 3 nails (they are finishing nails and would be hard to dig out), then actually break that wood piece off and try to remove ALL the glue, then re-glue and clamp---hopefully fitting the wood together better than before.

I'm leaning in the direction of doing the groove with a Dremel tool. It would require a lot less "perfection" in trying to remove all the "black" that has discolored the wood. Since the addition and removal of the leather seat has already "altered" the chair from it's original state, I conferred with the customer about my alternatives. We came to the conclusion of routing another groove based on these considerations:
1) Getting the "black" out of the wood would require lots of sanding/bleaching/wood putty/matching stain/ and varnishing.
2) The sanding might need to be quite deep
3) The black tack holes would still be visible
4) The chair has a history of having this installed leather seat which is shaped like a police badge.
5) The police badge shape is (we think) a much more interesting shape for this beautiful, large chair as opposed to what looks like a much smaller, square hole simply completed with pressed cane.
6) I would worry long-term whether the rail repair would "hold-up" under constant use. Cutting the groove into the stable area of wood seems to feel like the long-term stability would not be a problem. It would be solid.
7) My customer will be having a couple chairs redone, eventually, and is going for the same "look" (stain/varnish/cane). I think she would prefer not seeing tack marks.
8) Getting screws substantial enough to hold the wood might result in the wood splitting to accommodate them.

One thing I will do is round the inside edges of the opening. They are 90 degrees (sharp), and may have contributed to the failing of the original seat.

Another thought I'm having is how and if I should fill the original groove with something. I have some left-over fibre rush and could pack that in the groove and smother it with layers of glue to fill the channel. Otherwise, I would think that the original groove would fill with dirt/lint/skin cells etc and become "nasty." Any thoughts there?

So, before I begin, please reply if you have a definite reason why you feel the way you do about repair vs. new groove. I would rather consider other options before moving forward. You can check out pictures of the chair that I have posted on my business Facebook page (link is below.)

Darlene Roehm
d/b/a DKR Cane-Seat Replacements
Manheim, Pennsylvania.

Visible to all on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DKRCaneSeatReplacements/?fref=ts

  • Cutting a new groove Patti Erickson, Tue Feb 21 1:48pm
    Darlene, I looked at the pictures on your facebook page. I would not recommend cutting a new grove. Repair the old one with a good quality wood glue and screws. Use restore a finish on the wood... more
    • Cutting a new groove DKR.SeatCaning, Wed Feb 22 12:29pm
      Patti, since it is such a gorgeous day, I took the rocker out in the driveway to "fiddle around" with it. Please remember, at this time I'm certainly not earning any money to speak of, I'm learning... more
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    • Cutting a new groove DKR.SeatCaning, Tue Feb 21 2:50pm
      • Cutting a new groove Back Porch Caning - Joyce Curtis, Wed Feb 22 5:42am
        Regluing and screwing a rail that has split away is usually no big deal for me, but if the piece is missing or badly glued, I take the chair to a professional furniture repair person who loves his... more
        • Cutting a new groove DKR.SeatCaning, Wed Feb 22 8:38am
          Joyce, thank you. What a lovely answer! I again spent a half hour talking over the imperfections of the chair with the customer, and she said she trusted me to make the right decision. Having started ... more
      • Cutting a new groove Patti Erickson, Tue Feb 21 3:29pm
        Darlene, I tried several years ago, as an experiment, on one of my chairs. I used the dremel tool and it was a disaster. It wasn't even and filling in the old groove proved to me a big problem.... more
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