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Newbie with unusual problem - need advice
Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:05pm
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I need to put "radio weave" cane webbing in the frame of a cabinet door which encloses a stereo speaker. The person who did the work on my other doors is no longer in business. I'm handy but have never worked with cane before. What makes this more challenging is that it is (to me) a non-standard installation.

Here is an image of the entire frame https://photos.app.goo.gl/b7lEqMxbLEfWoGdx2

Here is closeup of the inside of the frame (1/2 inch wide rabbet, 3/8 inch deep) https://photos.app.goo.gl/H2UwdcIqcRvLUQqj2

Here is a picture of what the original person did on a another door (you can see that the webbing does not extend up the edge of the rabbet. The webbing is drum head tight) https://photos.app.goo.gl/s1LUJrOrZi4Zi59P2


Thought process from a total newbie:
1. Carefully unroll the dry webbing, hold flat and mark the exact frame inside dimensions.

2. Glue (Titebond III) each crossing strand near marked dimensions (I don't want the webbing to unravel after it is cut - but I don't know if this is overkill).

3. After glue dries, cut webbing to EXACT dimensions (should this be done after soaking?)

4. Roll webbing up and soak in warm/hot water for 1-1/2 hours.

NOW IT GETS TRICKY - I THINK

5. Starting with one long side:
a. Put glue (Titebond III ?) on the bottom of the rabbet,
b. Lay the webbing into the rabbet,
c. Glue a 1/2x3/8" wood strip to the webbing
d. Pin/brad the wood strip to the frame (you can't nail down through the webbing, the lip of the rabbet is too thin).

6. Do the steps in point 5 for the other long side - ensuring that the webbing is relatively taut.

7. Do the steps in point 5 for each of the two short sides.

PROBLEMS?
Are the wood strips sufficient to hold the webbing in place as it drys? (I have no idea how much cane webbing shrinks as it drys nor the time it takes to dry).

The wood beneath the rabbet is quite thin and the webbing cannot be stapled to the frame. One thought would be to put a few downward facing brads into the wood strip prior to installation. Their tips would be clipped so that they were barely exposed, but would hold the webbing in place. Perhaps a super quick-drying glue in the rabbet would work?

Sorry for the long-winded post.

Any thoughts and ideas would be welcomed!

Thank You!

    • cane in cabinet door JIm Widess, Sat Apr 28 12:19pm
      Hi Newbie, 1. Remove the wooden stops. 2. Remove the cane webbing. Study how it was applied. 3. Remove all staples on the rabbit 4. Soak the new cane in hot water for 10 minutes. DO NOT cut the cane... more
      • Re: cane in cabinet door Cathryn Peters, Sun Apr 29 7:48am
        Wonderful explanations of the steps Jim, thank you! Newbie, be sure to buy your caning supplies from Jim at The Caning Shop http://www.caning.com The Wicker Woman®--Cathryn Peters... more
      • Re: cane in cabinet door ereeder, Sat Apr 28 6:21pm
        Jim, Thanks a bunch!! VERY informative! I should have pointed out that this is a "new" door that has never had cane. I removed the center wooden panel of the door to make room for the cane webbing... more
        • cane and cabinet doors JIm Widess, Mon Apr 30 12:32am
          Wire staples of the kind used by upholstery shops are very thin and shouldn't cause splitting. I always staple every strand - especially when using the radio net weave. If the air pressure is too... more
          • Re: cane and cabinet doors ereeder, Wed May 2 5:46pm
            Jim, A few last questions. What are the specs on the staples? Are they flat on top? The crown (width) of the staples is the big mystery to me. It looks like 3/8-inch is the most common crown size,... more
            • Re: cane and cabinet doors ereeder, Fri May 4 5:12pm
              I am now a successful caner (at least passable). I'll share what a TOTAL newbie learned, thanks to Jim @ caning.com First, I misunderstood Jim's directive to staple every strand. I thought that he... more
        • Re: cane in cabinet door Cathryn Peters, Sun Apr 29 7:50am
          Ereeder, Could you please introduce yourself to the group? What's your name and what state do you live in, for starters. Thanks! The Wicker Woman®--Cathryn Peters https://www.WickerWoman.com
          • Re: cane in cabinet door ereeder, Sun Apr 29 10:07am
            I'm Ed from California. Retired, somewhat handy, have zero knowledge of cane, and feel incredibly lucky to have found this incredible resource.
            • New to the source jwoods.enterprises, Mon Apr 30 6:27am
              Hello Ed, New to chair seating? Visit our web site www.seatweavwersguild.org. Search here to read past posts. A ton of information. Jim Widess and Frank’s Cane and Rush are both on your coast as well ... more
              • New to the source jwoods.enterprises, Mon Apr 30 6:29am
                Love typos That is Jill Woods The SeatWeavers’ Guild, Inc.
            • Re: cane in cabinet door Cathryn Peters, Sun Apr 29 2:22pm
              Hi Ed, and welcome to the Chair Caning Forum! Please use a signature file after your posts, if only for your name and state, it helps all of us since we are spread out all over the country. The... more
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