David Welch
Temperley has much information
Mon Apr 4, 2016 9:52am
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Tate & Brady would have gone out of use when a church began chanting canticles and prose psalms, and facts about the spread of chanting seem the best guide on the end of T & B.

Much information about the shift is contained in Nicholas Temperley`s Music of the English Parish Church. Clearly it was a long process, and varied geographically and between different churchmanships.

Temperley`s earliest reference to congregational chanting in ordinary churches is for 1790 in London (p.220), and just above he quotes a statement that "in the C18 chanting was almost unknown in parish churches and was regarded as "cathedral worship"". The 1790 comment and many of Temperley`s later ones on chanting do not make clear whether it was being done by the church choirs alone or by all worshippers, but from the point-of-view of the tunes being used, this is immaterial.

On p.222: "several churches in York chanted the canticles, and in some cases the psalms, during the first thirty years of the nineteenth century". "Many parochial psalmodies in the 1820s contain chants".

But the main spread of chanting seems to have been spearheaded by enthusiasts in the 1840s, and associated with the High-Church Oxford movement. When this led to a majority of churches in England having discarded T & B is not stated, though I would guess the 1860s.

Temperley`s book was published in 1979, and with almost 40 years of further (scattered) research, we ought to be more certain about the important question which Josephine has asked.

  • Tate and Brady metrical psalms
    Josephine Pentney, Fri Apr 1 5:54pm
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    • Temperley has much information
      David Welch, Mon Apr 4 9:52am
      • Re: Temperley has much information
        Anonymous, Tue Apr 5 7:55pm
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        • Chanting start dates
          David Welch, Wed Apr 6 5:25pm
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    • Tate & Brady Psalms
      Ros Clements, Sat Apr 2 10:58am
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