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Sherry
Thanks! (Long story)
Thu May 17, 2012 4:54pm
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Thanks for the advice. It is reassuring.
To make a long story short...
this is her first litter and she never went into labor (no pushing.) In fact, she didn't give any of the normal signs... nesting, going off her feed, restlessness, etc. We were in the same room and had been all evening and I first knew she had a pup when she stood up and there was one... stone cold... where she had been sleeping. We went to the emergency clinic (the only thing available around here after hours) and about a half hour later, another dead pup slipped out. The vet agreed to give her a shot of oxy which had no effect and an hour later, he did a c-section, removing 3 live pups. She and the pups had a hard time throwing off the anesthesia. In fact, 5 hours later, she had to be carried out to the car and the pups were still very lethargic. I kept her in a large wire crate by herself while she recovered... she wasn't back to normal (able to stand and walk straight) until the next morning. I lost the weakest pup over night and a second one the next night. Once she was awake, she alerted every time the two pups cried, so I put them with her. She immediately put the little girl up against her belly and has pretty much been hatching her ever since. I kept putting the male against her too, but other than cleaning his bottom from time to time, she paid him little attention. I did notice, when it was clear that he was not going to survive and I stopped moving him against her, she kept him in her line of sight... if she changed position, she moved him so she could see him, but not close to her. And when I removed him, she never looked for him. She is in my bedroom, in a large box in an x-large wire crate about 3 feet above the floor. There are other dogs in and out of the room, but she pays no attention to them and the only time they pay any attention to her is when she has the pup in her mouth and she is crying. As soon as she puts her down and sthe crying stops, the other dogs go about their business. (They are used to the bedroom being a nursery.) In the 50 years I've been breeding, I have never had a dog carry a pup around... they pick them up from time to time to move them, but that's it. I suppose since she is down from 5 to just the 1, she wants to be super sure that one doesn't just disappear. And soon she'll be too big to tote around so the behavior will stop.

By the way, momma is the younger girl I lost last Fall.
Thanks again.

  • Mom carrying pups aroundSherry, Wed May 16 3:55pm
    Anyone have any ideas about how I can stop a first time mama from picking her pup (just one) up in her mouth EVERY time she (the mom) gets up? And she doesn't pout her down right away after she gets... more
    • UpdateSherry, Sat May 26 1:54am
      Thought y'all might like to know how things are going. It was really rough for 5-6 days... every time I looked in on Peri and the pup, I expected to find the baby dead. But it seems like the day she... more
      • carrying puplynne, Sun May 27 7:09am
        So glad things have taken a tun for the better. Be aware that a singleton pup can sometimes have behavioral traits that are different from other dogs. If you have other puppies that this one can... more
    • Thanks! (Long story) — Sherry, Thu May 17 4:54pm
      • wow, it all sounds so sad!Maureen - Labradoodle Ranch, Fri May 18 4:53pm
        No wonder she carries her baby. Are you saying the mom is one of the 2 that you lost last fall? I take it you never saw the pregnant girl again? I still ache when I remember what you went thru with... more
    • Re: Mom carrying pups arounddeb, Thu May 17 7:26am
      sounds like she is unsure about the pups safety. Where is her bed? are there other dogs around? Try setting her bed up like a cave, also try and keep the other dogs away from her. It won't hurt the... more
    • is the puppy small or anything wrong with it?Debbie-FernRidge Labradoodles, Thu May 17 12:30am
      sometimes mama's of any breed try to separate the weak puppy from the strong--hate to say this--and hoping it's not the case---be sure to watch if it's nursing and gaining weight--then it's ok--if... more
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