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Merlin
"...Trump is NOT an ideologue, but a pragmatist."
Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:33pm
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it has been forcefully asserted.

Is it fair to say that a pragmatists morality is based upon a sole principle: practicality?

    • In summary, the pragmatist is very well aware that the MEANS used to achieve the ENDS desired must conform to the public's moral code. Looking at the health issue again. I, as a pragmatist, do not... more
    • What sort of lame ass strawman is this? ~ TheFrustratedPragmatist, Tue Sep 12 6:50am
      A Pragmatist's morality is based upon his morality. Doesn't have anything to do with practicality.
    • Is it "moral" to give The Poor other ~ Ted, Mon Sep 11 8:48pm
      peoples' money?
      • Society involves contributions of all for the common good. To support those in need, it is perfectly ethical to tax those unwilling to donate. However, that does not mean creating a lifestyle of... more
    • Pragmatism is about HOW you solve problems to get the outcome that you want. Morality is about how you choose which outcome you want. Example: The pragmatist is faced with the health care problem.... more
      • His pragmatism tell him not to look for solutions that are public sector or private sector; federal or state; liberal or conservative; but to figure out what method gets the job done best in the long ... more
        • Holy crap are you confused!!! ~ TheFrustratedPragmatist, Tue Sep 12 6:52am
          Why do you keep confabulating Pragmatism with morality????? Pragmatism isn't about morality, it is about supporting Plans that get the results desired at the onset of the Plan. Morality is an... more
        • I answered your question. ~ DFM, Mon Sep 11 6:36pm
          You asked: And if the means that gets the job done best in the long run conflicts with his morality, be it religious, philosophical, economic, political? If you had actually read what I wrote, you... more
            • I said exactly the opposite of "end justifies the means". All potential solutions must be scrutinized for their moral implications. Read it again . DFM
              • What Then Makes Pragmatists So Pragmatic? ~ Merlin, Tue Sep 12 6:52am
                Lower moral standards?
                • Again...... ~ TheFrustratedPragmatist, Tue Sep 12 6:56am
                  A Pragmatist supports the notion that IF a PLAN is designed to achieve a desired result, then the RESULTS of implementation of that PLAN are what matters. If the RESULTS are achieved, the PLAN has... more
                  • You and the 9-11 connivers ~ PH🗽🗽EY, Tue Sep 12 8:13am
                    think alike. In so many words you are stating that the end justifies the plan (means). Of course morals have no place. Machiavelli and you are two peas in a pod.
                  • You Contend That Pragmatists Are Immoral ~ Merlin, Tue Sep 12 7:04am
                    when it comes to designing, implementing, and assessing the results of a Plan.
                    • Are you drunk? I contend no such thing. ~ TheFrustratedPragmatist, Tue Sep 12 7:05am
                      Get off the bottle
                      • Your Words ~ Merlin, Tue Sep 12 7:52am
                        "A Pragmatist supports the notion that IF a PLAN is designed to achieve a desired result, then the RESULTS of implementation of that PLAN are what matters. If the RESULTS are achieved, the PLAN has... more
                        • And somehow ~ TheFrustratedPragmatist, Tue Sep 12 8:34am
                          You twist those words to say a Pragmatist is immoral???? Strange indeed.
                          • NOTHING regarding an individual's morals." ~ Merlin, Tue Sep 12 8:45am
                            Your words...no twisting needed...on my part.
                            • Wow, ok I will type slower ~ TheFrustratedPragmatist, Tue Sep 12 9:05am
                              A Pragmatist's focus is on whether or not a particular Plan achieved it's intended results. That does not have anything to do with his individual morality. It does not make him immoral. Get it?
                              • If the Plain fails to conform to accepted standards of morality, then the Pragmatist who designed and exected the Plan has behaved immorally.
                                • Ahhh...now I understand your confusion ~ TheFrustratedPragmatist, Tue Sep 12 1:14pm
                                  You ASSUMED a Plan does not conform to accepted standards of morality. Not quite sure why you would make such a ludicrous assumption, but I agree with you that a person who develops an immoral plan... more
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