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Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:01pm
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Okay, so you were saying it's not surprising that they would go on to be successful in their fields. I agree. But the point was that many people feel the SAT's predictive value is so low that we shouldn't even use the SAT anymore, and this research shows that at least for those who score quite high at an early age, it predicts well enough to have "meaning" of some sort.

I don't know anything about the America Competes Act. And I agree that 13 is a little late to identify our kids (one reason our son was lucky to be "identified" by anyone who spoke with him since he was 2 or younger, but also "officially" identified by "official" tests at age 7 and a test everyone who is college educated in at least one part of the USA understands easily - the SAT - at age 8). But better at 13 than 18, I would say.

  • Re: Another articleHanna, Thu Sep 13 5:49pm
    A 697 twenty five years ago was more like getting an 800 now. It doesn't seem that surprising that these kids would eventually go on to be successful in their fields. I am interested in knowing more... more
    • Weird, now it's there! — GG, Thu Sep 13 6:01pm
      • Re: Weird, now it's there!Hanna, Thu Sep 13 6:09pm
        The thing I don't like is that the SAT can be tutored and practiced and I am not sure it's the best test. There is a set of twins in my son's school whose father made them practice non-stop and... more
        • as someone with an IQ of 100 is doubtful, I would think, to score 700+ on either section of the SAT at age 13 or before even with weekly prep from a parent. You can take a person with an average IQ... more
          • I would be interested in that info. Hard to say what would be better, maybe a WJ achievement test. It would have to be a test that the public would not be able to get their hands on. There is... more
            • I read the chart and am surprised a bit by how *low* the average number of points gained when retested fairly soon after first tested is, and I suspect it is lower for someone with an IQ of say 100... more
    • Some of your message got cut...GG, Thu Sep 13 5:57pm
      but a 697 (which is an average, of course, as the SAT has always had scores that end in zero) 25 years ago was not like getting an 800 now. Indeed, a 700 on the math SAT 25 years ago equates to a 690 ... more
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