The Arizona Territory Forum
Re: Johnny and Suzy
Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:06am

Lot of wisdom there, Bullwhip, but the question is why. Why would Mexico do "nothing," as you correctly point out it has done nothing "all along."

And the answer is that what lies behind the motivation of much of those Spaniards' bloody behavior--not that Spain was alone in this, but it was especially brutal--was the Church.

Catholicism--hell, the Christian religion in general--had so infected (with a bunch of superstitious nonsense) the minds of the Spanish that anything they did, no matter how wrong their "shit," could be self-righteously justified in the name of their so-called God.

And then, once they had wiped out the Aztecs, they planted their damn crosses throughout Mexico and infected the minds of its gullible native inhabitants in turn. Always remember that Mexico was essentially run by the repressive, rapacious, power-mad Church for centuries, a Church whose only interest in "the people" was to indoctrinate re: intimidate them in order to milk them for every peso they could spare.

If you are looking, historically, for the source of why Mexico is so effed up today, you could do worse than to lay much of the blame at the door of the highly-politicized Catholic Church.

It's an old story. The culture of an indigenous people being either wiped out or irreversibly damaged and degraded by a technologically superior outside entity for its own self-interested purposes, purposes both economic and religious, which in the case of Mexico in particular is a difference without a distinction.

  • Johnny and Suzy - Bullwhip Bill Bascomb, Fri Jul 6 6:46pm
    Why did they go to Mexico? Not for the water. Drugs, I guess. Screw them. But Let's get to the point. I feel for you, Joey Garza. Once the Southwest belonged to somebody else other than the folks you ... more
    • Re: Johnny and Suzy - Lancer, Sat Jul 7 1:06am
      • Go ahead blame Jesus - Suds, Sat Jul 28 6:38am
        Don't hold Mexico resonsible for its corruption and its inability to keep Jose and Lupe home where they should be. I ain't too happy about the fat whore in Rome myself, but he ain't the coyote you... more
        • Re: Go ahead blame Jesus - Lancer, Sat Jul 28 12:28pm
          Don't know why I bother. I'm talking 16th, 17th, 18th century Mexican cultural history--about which you clearly know nada--as the underlying cause of what you have today, PRIOR to dope, prior to... more
          • What the hell is the difference - Suds, Mon Jul 30 9:49am
            between the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries so far Mexico goes? They don't even know what century they're in now. Not even beloved Jesus can help Mexico now. You can take your basic broken down,... more
            • Re: What the hell is the difference - Lancer, Tue Jul 31 12:33am
              Answer the question I posed to you which you conveniently avoided addressing. You can mindlessly declare all day long that religion is not to blame for their "plight"--which, in fact, if you knew... more
              • Answer your question? - Suds, Tue Jul 31 9:58am
                I didn't know you even had a question! Your just like some old woman talking to the point where there's no words just guttural sounds all sounding the same: a handful of gimme and a mouthful of I... more
                • Re: Answer your question? - Lancer, Wed Aug 1 1:27am
                  Ah, the old racial inferiority/superiority gambit, is it? Like pulling teeth, but knew we'd get there eventually. You'd make a good Nazi, but then you know that already. One of the less intelligent... more