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Pat
Warner
Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:55am
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Vince I have his book and the 2nd later one added to, edited and full of beans. Matt wrote about a lot of his escapades and daring do. But in order to sell books and seem more important than he was , he included Butch in everything ,which we know Butch did not do . Nor was Butch in most of the places Warner said he was. Warner was more a cohort of the McCarty's .And he says Butch died in Bolivia but was based on what he read in the papers not on any facts he know.

Lay however was Butch's best friend and similar age. Lay is the key to what happened to Butch. I am certain of it. But proving it is another thing.

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  • The BI bookPat, Mon Apr 16 6:41am
    Since this book is so difficult to read , I decided to go through it with a yellow highlighter and mark only the actual cited documents , if that's what they are. Or the newspaper articles . And... more
    • New infoin BIPat, Tue Apr 17 5:02pm
      Just read something I did not know in the BI book. It says Colin Taylor and Jack Stroud are Historians. I did not know that. Where did you get your degrees?
      • Re: New infoin BIJack, Tue Apr 17 10:42pm
        Genealogist: A person who traces or studies the descent of persons or families. Historian: A person who studies and writes about the past and is regarded as an authority it. Although "historian" can... more
        • JackPat, Tue Apr 17 11:28pm
          Thanks for clearing that up. I wish I would have known that , I could have saved several years and a lot of money at Northwestern University , Evanston, ILL.
          • Re: JackJack, Wed Apr 18 9:05am
            Historian: It is reserved more recently for those who have acquired graduate degrees in the discipline. Congratulations, I guess by you having graduate degree in history from Northwestern University, ... more
            • JackPat, Wed Apr 18 9:32am
              I hope this isn't a reference to my age. Hahaha. But it is better than being an Alabama Librarian .
    • Re: The BI bookVince Garcia, Tue Apr 17 5:26am
      Has anyone questioned Matt Warner's descendants on Butch? Warner too claimed he returned, and between his and Lay's family, there could be some useful knowledge floating around
      • Warner — Pat, Tue Apr 17 9:55am
        • Re: WarnerVince Garcia, Tue Apr 17 5:01pm
          I'm wondering who might still be around who may have done an in depth interview with Marvel. I know Kerry Boren spoke with her, and I wonder if Ed Kirby or Larry pointer interviewed her as well. Do... more
          • VincePat, Tue Apr 17 5:43pm
            You have to understand that Elzy remarried in 1909 to Mary Calvert and had another family. Maud remarried 3 more times after Elzy. None of them would know anything as they had no contact with Elzy... more
          • Re: WarnerJust a thought, Tue Apr 17 5:24pm
            Possibly her son Harv Murdock
            • YesPat, Tue Apr 17 5:38pm
              Harvey is 86 yrs old. His brother John who also did research just died last may.
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