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James Ryan and Robert Leroy Parker
Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:52am

How do we know that James Ryan is Butch for certain? Eyewitnesses have a James Ryan in Argentina by 1902, but there is.a huge difference between someone being James Ryan and it being Butch. If I remember right Newberry says its him, but....There are unverified documents with a James Ryan signature, but that means very little. Then we have some pictures that people say is them. Not one of them show Butch's mug. It supposedly shows a James Ryan, but about all one can make out is that it is a male figure.If one believes that James Ryan is in the tea party photo, I think that proves James Ryan is not Butch Cassidy. He looks more like Butch Patrick from the Munsters.

    • Re:Bob Goodwin, Mon Nov 13 5:26am
      Witnesses after the Villa Mercedes robbery in Argentina from photos shown to them identified Butch and Sundance, as having committed the robbery. two other participants were unidentified. The bankers ... more
      • How ?Pat, Mon Nov 13 10:11am
        How could bankers in Buenos Aires hundreds of miles away from the Villa Merces robbery identify the photos .They were even there?
      • Witnesses??Pat, Mon Nov 13 9:37am
        And exactly who were those witnesses. SA indians or Spanish? It's like in this country when whites try to identify black s. Some have spent their whole lives in prison because of it. If these so... more
        • re:Bob Goodwin, Mon Nov 13 11:44am
          I must not have made myself clear. I was talking about two different sets of witnesses. Set one were the witnesses after the Villa Mercedes robbery who identified Butch, Sundance and Etta/Ethel, and... more
      • Re:ChrisV, Mon Nov 13 5:53am
        Hi Bob, Not being difficult, but weren't they going by another alias at that point? best, Chris
        • re:Bob Goodwin, Mon Nov 13 8:33am
          Yes, good question. They were going by aliases. Harry A Place, Ethel Plane, and James Ryan. However, the photos that Dimaio was showing around were of Harry Longabaugh, Ethel/Etta Place and Butch... more
    • Thanks ChrisPat, Sun Nov 12 8:04am
      This is my biggest gripe. We have no idea who James Ryan was.
      • Re: Thanks ChrisChrisV, Sun Nov 12 8:33am
        I just think we are assuming too much. Even the watch at Tiffany's, having the same address as the James Ryan that is at the boarding house, doesn't mean its Butch. It means James Ryan bought a watch ... more
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