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Pat
Thanks Chris
Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:04am
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This is my biggest gripe. We have no idea who James Ryan was.

  • James Ryan and Robert Leroy ParkerChrisV, Sun Nov 12 6:52am
    How do we know that James Ryan is Butch for certain? Eyewitnesses have a James Ryan in Argentina by 1902, but there is.a huge difference between someone being James Ryan and it being Butch. If I... more
    • Re:Bob Goodwin, Mon Nov 13 5:26am
      Witnesses after the Villa Mercedes robbery in Argentina from photos shown to them identified Butch and Sundance, as having committed the robbery. two other participants were unidentified. The bankers ... more
      • How ?Pat, Mon Nov 13 10:11am
        How could bankers in Buenos Aires hundreds of miles away from the Villa Merces robbery identify the photos .They were even there?
      • Witnesses??Pat, Mon Nov 13 9:37am
        And exactly who were those witnesses. SA indians or Spanish? It's like in this country when whites try to identify black s. Some have spent their whole lives in prison because of it. If these so... more
        • re:Bob Goodwin, Mon Nov 13 11:44am
          I must not have made myself clear. I was talking about two different sets of witnesses. Set one were the witnesses after the Villa Mercedes robbery who identified Butch, Sundance and Etta/Ethel, and... more
      • Re:ChrisV, Mon Nov 13 5:53am
        Hi Bob, Not being difficult, but weren't they going by another alias at that point? best, Chris
        • re:Bob Goodwin, Mon Nov 13 8:33am
          Yes, good question. They were going by aliases. Harry A Place, Ethel Plane, and James Ryan. However, the photos that Dimaio was showing around were of Harry Longabaugh, Ethel/Etta Place and Butch... more
    • Thanks Chris — Pat, Sun Nov 12 8:04am
      • Re: Thanks ChrisChrisV, Sun Nov 12 8:33am
        I just think we are assuming too much. Even the watch at Tiffany's, having the same address as the James Ryan that is at the boarding house, doesn't mean its Butch. It means James Ryan bought a watch ... more
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