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Mark Mszanski
Question for Dan on the Posse Cars
Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:38pm
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Dan,

Where these posse cars deployed because of the WB ? - Or was this a consensus based decision by The Pinkertons as a result of other heists?
Seems like a costly way to go after outlaws.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeATCwk5PTQ

  • Sheriff Bledsoe!Mark Mszanski, Fri Nov 17 1:19pm
    Sheriff Bledsoe to Butch and Sundance: "You know, you should have let yourselves get killed a long time ago when you had the chance. See, you may be the biggest thing that ever hit this area, but... more
    • Question for Dan on the Posse Cars — Mark Mszanski, Fri Nov 17 1:38pm
      • Re: Question for Dan on the Posse Cars Vince Garcia, Fri Nov 17 5:32pm
        In my june 1900 timeline I have copied a 1905 article about Je LeFors and the Union Pacific Rangers who had their own train, called GUARDING A RAILROAD IN THE BANDIT BELT One nice paragraph: Chief... more
        • Re: Question for Dan on the Posse Cars Daniel Buck, Sat Nov 18 5:45am
          Vince, Interesting quote. I wonder, tho, if the author -- William MacLeod Raine, "Guarding a Railroad in the 'Bandit Belt'," The Wide World Magazine, January 1905 -- is not laying it on a bit thick.... more
          • Re: Question for Dan on the Posse Cars Vince Garcia, Sat Nov 18 8:56am
            One thing to keep in mind, the UP special train posse was meant to go after train robbers, and train robberies didn't happen every day in Wyoming so I have to wonder how many times they actually were ... more
            • Re: Question for Dan on the Posse Cars Daniel Buck, Sat Nov 18 8:59am
              Well, how many UP robberies were there, say, post Wilcox? Regardless, best I can tell, the idea was a bust. Dan
              • Re: Question for Dan on the Posse Cars Vince Garcia, Sat Nov 18 10:25am
                Referring to wyoming, Wm Pinkerton only mentioned Wilcox and Tipton in his famous speech on train robbers in 1907. Past that, while doing all my newspaper research, I looked up references to train... more
                • Re: Question for Dan on the Posse Cars Daniel Buck, Sat Nov 18 12:21pm
                  Vince, Richard Patterson, in Train Robbery: The Birth, Flowering, and Decline of a Notorious Enterprise (1981), and Historical Atlas of the Outlaw West (1985), cites the following Wyoming train... more
                  • Re: Question for Dan on the Posse Cars Vince Garcia, Sat Nov 18 4:02pm
                    I'm right then. After Tipton there is nothing until the Teens (which I did not search for because the railroad posse I imagine would be a memory by then, replaced by cars, I suppose? So really, it... more
                    • Re: Question for Dan on the Posse Cars Daniel Buck, Sat Nov 18 10:09pm
                      Vince, Well, I think that is the point, it was only used once or twice in Wyoming by the UP, and in neither case was terribly effective. In reality, sending an expensive posse to the scene of the... more
      • Re: Question for Dan on the Posse Cars Daniel Buck, Fri Nov 17 3:01pm
        Mark, commenting without looking it up: the super posse aka posse cars were used once or twice without success & dropped, only to be resurrected & made famous in the 1969 movie. Dan
        • Thanks Dan and Vince Mark, Fri Nov 17 5:48pm
          Thank you. I had wondered if this mode of operation would fly. Seems like mean time to response was the issue. High cost operation to run. Still , somewhat creative for the time. Cassidy has fresh... more
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