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Re: Chris
Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:01am

Not to be overly dramatic, but this document belongs to the people of Utah. If it exists, Bob, Brett, or myself should be able to see it. When I went, they acted dumb like the XEROX was all they had. Granted, it could have been someone being paid minimum wage and was too lazy to go get it. To get documents at UHS, you have to ask the front desk and they go back and get your request in the back room/vault. If it were there, Id think they would have said "Yes, we have it, but your a peon we are not going to show it to you" Didn't get that. Just a confused look and the response "this is what we have"

Id rather destroy a minute piece of a document and know its real than wonder if it is and leave it pristine.If its so old, there are probably pieces that are falling off by themselves

I dont need this letter to be a fake. What is with you guys? Theories are more important than the truth? Someone says its real and you just assume that It is? Thats weak. If its real, lets find out. If its not, lets leave it out of the equation.

  • Re: ChrisVince Garcia, Mon Nov 27 4:30am
    Has it occurred to you they may not want to let "just anybody" handling a priceless historical document; or that they don't want to just haul it out because someone asks to see it? I suspect if Dan... more
    • VincePat, Mon Nov 27 10:28am
      Dan would stand a chance of a snowball in hell getting into that vault or it's contents. They don't recognize his as anything but a gentile.
      • Re: VinceVince Garcia, Mon Nov 27 10:45am
        So is this one of those "only a high-level Mormon official can gain entry" things?
        • re: VinceBob Goodwin, Mon Nov 27 3:24pm
          Actually, in my discussions with the librarians and curators, I think that at least half of the staff are not LDS.
    • Re: Chris — ChrisV, Mon Nov 27 6:01am
      • re: ChrisBob Goodwin, Mon Nov 27 3:39pm
        Chris, First, of all, there are at least three different repositories that they use to store their collections. The most commonly used items are store on site, in the back room, so to speak. In other ... more
        • BobPat, Mon Nov 27 5:20pm
          Yeah but if Mitt Romney went in and asked for it they would bring it on a silver platter. They play favorites all the time .And other little games.
      • Re: ChrisVince Garcia, Mon Nov 27 8:43am
        YOU don't need it to be fake. That comment was a question to Pat who has this big theory that Butch never went to SA. SHE, if anyone, would need it to be fake because if it is not it hurts her theory
        • VincePat, Mon Nov 27 10:22am
          Now you're telling me what I think? Are you a mind reader? I don't know if Robert Leroy Parker went to SA or not. That's the whole point. Someone named James Ryan went . Whoever he was we don't know... more
          • Re: VinceVince Garcia, Mon Nov 27 2:46pm
            You've been saying this theory for years here! Sometimes, when someone finds out something, or points out something (as I did recently) that hurts it you back off slightly and equivocate, but you... more
        • Re: ChrisChrisV, Mon Nov 27 8:49am
          gotcha. :)
      • Re: ChrisDaniel Buck, Mon Nov 27 6:36am
        Chris, Here's the protocol. Historical documents held by archives are considered established otherwise. That's not a theory, that's a protocol. The skeptic, the challenger, has to come... more
        • The LetterBob Goodwin, Mon Nov 27 4:08pm
          I didn't know that Joe Cocker was a Cassidy fan until I read the lyrics. Gimme a ticket for an aeroplane Ain't got time to take a fast train Lonely days are gone, I'm a-goin' home My Butch, he just-a ... more
          • Bob Pat, Mon Nov 27 5:22pm
            Does this mean Cocker and Cassidy were Gay? LOL
          • BobPat, Mon Nov 27 5:14pm
            I would never skewer you my old friend. In fact this makes more sense than anything I've read in a long while.Except the part about Harvey .
          • Re: The LetterDaniel Buck, Mon Nov 27 4:32pm
            Bob, you are a diplomat. Dan
        • And yetPat, Mon Nov 27 10:17am
          You ripped apart the Hot Springs museum because they had not tested or proven their holdings. Dan you are a great shape shifter. And let us not forget that the USHS also has holdings from KRB and... more
          • Re: And yetDaniel Buck, Mon Nov 27 10:28am
            Pat, So if I follow your, um, logic correctly, just because Kerry Ross Boren made stuff up, then Pat Schroeder is equally Munchausenesque? Is that how it works/ Dan
        • DanPat, Mon Nov 27 10:09am
          I won't even try to answer Vince as he is out to lunch and has no knowledge of the Mormon church or their holdings. However Dan let me ask you this. Why do you NOT believe Lula who said Butch came... more
          • Re: DanDaniel Buck, Mon Nov 27 10:26am
            Pat, you work under the assumption that if A is X, then B is X, or looking at it a different way, is A is not X then B is not X. Just because Lula made up the story of Cassidy's return does not mean... more
        • established otherwiseDaniel Buck, Mon Nov 27 6:39am
          for some reason, the word "until" causes the OWR software to burp. Even when I reposted it in the subject line above, it created ellipses. Dan
    • Re: ChrisDaniel Buck, Mon Nov 27 5:35am
      Vince, the most likely reason that the Soldier Prince porter did not recognize a photo of Cassidy is that it was SK&EP who bought tickets and boarded the ship. The porter never saw Cassidy. I can't... more
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