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ChrisV
Re: Enrique or H.A. Place
Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:26pm
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Vince,
Yes. Did you know my name is Kiki in Hawaiian? When I sign official documents half the time I call myself Chris and sometimes I go by Kiki. Once in awhile, I like to go by C. V. just to mix things up. The banks and government officials love it when I do this
Chris

  • Re: Enrique or H.A. PlaceVince Garcia, Tue Nov 28 2:01pm
    chris--You do realize Santiago is the equivalent of the name James in Spanish?
    • Re: Enrique or H.A. PlaceChrisV, Wed Nov 29 5:34am
      It seems as historians we generally call them James Ryan and Harry Place when in SA. There is no document where they both sign as that. Ive never seen a SK where he signs Harry at all. Its HA or... more
    • Re: Enrique or H.A. Place — ChrisV, Tue Nov 28 2:26pm
      • Re: Enrique or H.A. PlaceVince Garcia, Tue Nov 28 3:42pm
        I regularly have issues when I give the name Vince instead of Vincent w/some entities when i call up for some issue
        • Re: Enrique or H.A. PlaceChrisV, Tue Nov 28 3:49pm
          Vince....my point exactly. It would be silly to do this on government docs. You already are on the lamb and have an alias that you want people to believe as you want to stay in the area for awhile... more
          • Re: Enrique or H.A. PlaceVince Garcia, Tue Nov 28 5:52pm
            I am stretching my memory here and could well be wrong, but I seem to recall at times Butch allegedly claimed to be a native, hence the Spanish name. Dan can correct me if I'm wrong
            • Re: Enrique or H.A. PlaceChrisV, Tue Nov 28 6:00pm
              Interesting. Id think that would be hard to pull off not speaking fluent Spanish or none at all. I would also think that a native name such as Enrique or Santiago would be earned as they made friends ... more
              • Enrique - Jacob - James - etc Mark Mszanski, Wed Nov 29 6:51am
                Enrique or Harry ( or Henry ) - Santiago or Jacob or James - Would be the literal translations and would be the names they were called in Spanish by the natives . As well, Mrs. H.A Place was known to ... more
              • Re: Enrique or H.A. PlaceVince Garcia, Wed Nov 29 2:45am
                Come out here and I'll show you people "native" to California who can't speak more than a smattering of english. But there were english and german speaking communities down there one could be raised... more
                • Re: Enrique or H.A. PlaceChrisV, Wed Nov 29 5:30am
                  Could be a possibility. Would be interesting to know.
                  • Tough to tell Mark Mszanski, Thu Nov 30 6:26am
                    There could have been a very good reason for the use of the names. Dan has much more South American context and speaks Spanish fluently. I suspect there must be a rationale for the use of their alias ... more
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