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Bob Goodwin
Re: The many fates of Etta lace
Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:29am
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So many fun and speculative claims. Just like Christmas gifts waiting to be opened!

"Became a Madame in San Francisco"…More likely returned to prostitution in San Diego
"Was actually Ann Bassett"… Don't we loved Doris Burton's book? so much speculation so little fact.
"Opened a cathouse in Fort Worth"… Eunice Gray - - such a colorful figure herself.
"Married a boxing promoter"…in Paraguay no less. What about the Paraguayan Diplomat?
"Fought with Pancho Villa in Mexico"… and Emilio Zapata if you believe KRB
"Ran a sanitarium"... More likely a patient in a sanitarium ... in Napa, CA
"Led a bandit gang in Argentina..." Shades of Elena Greenhill. Dougherty's story makes such good reading
"Robbed banks in the 1920s"... The Etta Buchtel saga. She also had eleven husbands.
"Had a daughter who was a bank robber"... Betty Weaver and "Salty" Elkins - such a storyteller.
"Had a son who inspired the James Bond character" Longabaugh Jr? he changed his story every time he told it. ... must be guilty,,, of something.
"Died in a South American shootout" ...In Mercedes, Uruguay of all places, and with both Butch and Sundance!
"Became a sex slave to a South American outlaw".... to Wilson and Evans???, or was it Gephart, who chased Wilson and Evans?
Died in 1917.
Died in 1918.
Shot by an abusive lover in 1922
Committed suicide in 1924
Died in 1935
Died in 1959
Died in 1962
Died in the 1970s.

The latest claimant died in 1950

Thanks Vince, a reminder that Etta is still out there somewhere just waiting to be found.


  • The many fates of Etta PlaceVince Garcia, Thu Dec 21 6:30pm
    Became a Madame in San Francisco… Was actually Ann Bassett… Opened a cathouse in Fort Worth… Married a boxing promoter… Fought with Pancho Villa in Mexico… Ran a sanitarium. Led a bandit gang in... more
    • Re: The many fates of Etta lace — Bob Goodwin, Sat Dec 23 6:29am
      • Re: The many fates of Etta laceVince Garcia, Tue Dec 26 6:21am
        James Bond character not from HL: jr--was posted on Simon's page by a man who was a reporter and interviewed the guy who WAS the inspiration for JB, who saw a photo of EP in his manor and when he... more
        • Would it be this man ? Mark Mszanski, Tue Dec 26 9:41pm
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._F._E._Yeo-Thomas
          • Re: Would it be this man ? Vince Garcia, Wed Dec 27 10:54am
            I do not recall the man's name rt now. Not sure I copied the story. I probably did but not sure where i saved it
          • Re: Would it be this man ? Daniel Buck, Wed Dec 27 3:20am
            Mark, What a story, and all in a brief 61 years. The inspirations for James Bond are many, including Ian Fleming himself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspirations_for_James_Bond Dan
            • James BondMark Mszanski, Wed Dec 27 5:50am
              Dan - Your right, Bond is a composite character . I cannot say if he had Etta Place on his mantle as the character was the result many people who Ian Fleming had met or drawn key personality traits... more
    • Good stuffAnonymous, Fri Dec 22 8:22am
      Whatever you guys are smoking I want some. :)
    • I think we all know what happened to Etta...Brian Mida Bleecker, Thu Dec 21 8:55pm
      Vince, If Etta Place died in a South America shootout, as at least one eye witness account suggests, that would explain the guilt that ultimately led Butch and Sundance to a murder-suicide compact.... more
      • Not BC SKNicholas, Thu Dec 21 11:27pm
        The murder suicide wasn't Butch and Sundance. One of Vince's many deaths of EP may be right. Another possibility was not on the list.
        • Re: Not BC SKChrisV, Fri Dec 22 6:44am
          Reading the inquest, I agree. It was not Butch and Sundance.
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