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Daniel Buck
re: the Women of Robbers Roost
Sat Feb 3, 2018 12:02pm


Thanks. Much appreciated. Your several posts are granular in the best sense of the word.

Pocock, p. 289, blends two sets of women into one compound sentence: "The house is cheered by the presence of one or two ladies, wives of outlaws; and in 1896 there were two Mormon girls stolen from Castle Valley who made no moan over their bondage."

The first half of the sentence refers to a supposed Robbers Roost cabin, mentioned at the beginning of the paragraph, which he describes as "easily located on a map," but doesn't say he visited. The second half refers to 1896, three years before he was in the region.

The second set of ladies he had clearly only heard about, since he wasn't in Utah in 1896. Most of 1896 he was in England or sailing around Europe & the Mediterranean on tramp steamers. In early October, he boarded a cattle ship to the U.S., where he visited Philadelphia, and took the same ship back to England, leaving 5 November 1896 -- per Geoffrey A. Pocock (2007).

And the first set of ladies he probably had only heard about, because he doesn't say he actually entered Robbers Roost, though he has some wiggle room. One might argue he's an awkward writer, etc. That argument, tho, introducing an additional factor in order to arrive at a desired resolution, would violate Occam's Razor.

One does, however, have to admire Pocock's research. He had certainly read up on his subject and conducted a number of interviews. Dan

  • re: the Women of Robbers RoostBob Goodwin, Sat Feb 3 11:17am
    Dan, Ella Butler had left the Roost area around the time of the Springville Bank Robbery. In later life she used the name Florence in California where she was living after 1920. In 1898 Mont Butler,... more
    • re: the Women of Robbers Roost — Daniel Buck, Sat Feb 3 12:02pm
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