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Daniel Buck
Re: Found it
Thu Mar 8, 2018 9:46am

a colleague pointed me to two separate but sort of related affrays in 1884 New Mexico, both involving John B. Slaughter cowboys and, among others those of Solomon Luna, an important sheep rancher. First, was a shooting incident where Slaughter's brother was shot. Second, was the Elfego Baca "Frisco Plaza War," complicated to explain, but Baca, a Luna ally, held off dozens of Slaughter cowboys over two days, 30 to 31, October, 1884.

Nothing re Slaughter and John Chisum or Jesse Chisholm yet. Dan

  • Re: Found itChrisV, Wed Mar 7 5:29pm
    I believe it came out right after the Wagner Robbery. I didnt read the whole article, but Ill go back and look.
    • Re: Found it — Daniel Buck, Thu Mar 8 9:46am
      • John H. Slaughter, not John B. (nm)Daniel Buck, Thu Mar 8 11:09am
        • correction of correctionDaniel Buck, Thu Mar 8 2:04pm
          John Bunyan Slaughter (1848-1928) had the feud with Solomon Luna. John Horton Slaughter (1841-1922) was a different rancher altogether, but he knew John Chisum. The 1901 Montana newspaper article... more
          • Re: correction of correctionChrisV, Thu Mar 8 2:23pm
            • Re: correction of correctionDaniel Buck, Thu Mar 8 6:31pm
              Chris, we now enter the complications abound portion of the program. Another colleague suggested that perhaps the 1901 Montana story was referring to a series of violent incidents in Springer, NM, in ... more
              • Re: correction of correctionChrisV, Thu Mar 8 6:39pm
                Hmmm. I guess its certainly possible. I spent quite a bit of time looking in NM 1883 and 1884 newspaper stories trying to find anything that might help. Found nothing as of yet.
                • Re: correction of correctionDaniel Buck, Thu Mar 8 6:54pm
                  Thing of it is, the 1901 narrator is quite specific about a lot of things that are hard to check, some possible & others dubious, and specific about some easy to check, that HL is "quarter-blood... more
                  • Re: correction of correctionChrisV, Thu Mar 8 7:00pm
                    Agree. There is some obvious things that are wrong, but probably some grains of truth somewhere. Usually, where theres smoke, theres fire.
                    • The Planet of the ApesDaniel Buck, Fri Mar 9 5:07am
                      Chris, agreed, there is probably something smoldering in the 1901 story, obscured by the smoke -- which reminds me of Caesar's remark in The Planet of the Apes, "where there is fire, there is smoke." ... more
    • Re: Found itDaniel Buck, Thu Mar 8 2:33am
      Chris, Chronicling has two iterations of the story, Rosebud County News, 25 July 1901, and Kalispell Bee, 22 July 1901. Search Springer + Lusk . SK's name is spelled Longbaugh. The... more
      • SpectacularPat, Thu Mar 8 8:27am
        Dan after all these years of my researching you have connected all the dots for me. The fight was not with Chisum . And it now appears Tom Capehart could be Longabaugh. This is a huge story and too... more
        • Re: SpectacularChrisV, Thu Mar 8 2:31pm
          Hopefully there is more to this story than the bathroom floor story.
          • ChrisPat, Thu Mar 8 3:19pm
            There is a huge story and it has partially been told already from my research by Bell. Plus I have worked with Bob on it for years. You don't need to be snide about the bathroom thing. Whether Dan... more
            • Re: ChrisChrisV, Thu Mar 8 5:24pm
              Feel free to use my find, but give me credit.
              • NaivePat, Fri Mar 9 7:08am
                Chris not being mean but you are so new to all this. First of all I am not writing anything where I would use it. Others will though. They will simply refer to the article and cite the newspaper not... more
                • Re: NaiveChrisV, Fri Mar 9 7:50am
                  I am new to this and its funny it only took me an afternoon to find it lol. Thats fine and dandy and up to you the author. I would give credit where credit is due, but thats just me. Thanking Dan for ... more
                  • SoooPat, Fri Mar 9 8:35am
                    Are you saying the RR photo is genuine and is Butch and Sundance?
                    • Re: SoooChrisV, Fri Mar 9 8:46am
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