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ChrisV
A Hot Lead
Wed Apr 4, 2018 3:32pm
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The San Vicente pair could have been the Skipper and Gilligan. Anyone looked into that? Its a hotter lead than it being Butch and Sundance. :)

  • All Points BulletinChrisV, Wed Apr 4 7:45am
    Be on the look out for a white tall fat male with a turned up nose. His accomplice is a white short ugly guy with a turned up nose...... Sounds like Penn and Teller not Butch and Sundance.
    • A Hot Lead — ChrisV, Wed Apr 4 3:32pm
      • Dumb and Dumberneglib, Wed Apr 4 9:13pm
        It could be Lloyd and Harry.
        • Re: Dumb and DumberChrisV, Thu Apr 5 6:23am
          Brett, I can't believe for years people fell for this garbage of a story. The inquest papers are there for them to read, the descriptions, etc. Anyone with half a brain can see it is not them. Yet... more
          • Re: Dumb and DumberDaniel Buck, Thu Apr 5 10:06am
            Part two: Let's look at the medio ˝ato question from another angle, etymology and usage of the word ˝ato. Warning, there's no simple answer. An 1875 dictionary says ˝ato origin is Quechua, ˝anppi,... more
          • nasal morpometricsDaniel Buck, Thu Apr 5 8:49am
            Chris, Let's look at the bright side, the "medios natos" question is an excuse to brush up on our nasal morphometrics. At the time we were translating the Expediente, a bi-lingual Bolivian rendered... more
            • Try leaving out the white guys.Pat, Thu Apr 5 9:21am
              In Roger's version he says a Rubio is a light skinned Spaniard. So it could be a spaniard with blue eyes and lighter hair plus a shorter nose than the indian natives. Or andeans. Since Pero did not... more
              • Re: Try leaving out the white guys.Daniel Buck, Thu Apr 5 10:04am
                Pat, The Expediente was compiled November 1908 to March 1909 by the Tupiza district attorney. That's the original, the document we are working off of, the one I am quoting from. There is no mention... more
                • Re: Try leaving out the white guys.Vince Garcia, Thu Apr 5 7:33pm
                  Excellent comments. We have the same problem in trying to translate some fine points in Biblical texts. This has led me to wonder if you can comment on the point Christ brought up about the word... more
                  • lost & found in translationDaniel Buck, Fri Apr 6 6:07am
                    Vince, biblical translations have fueled disputes for hundreds of years, and will for hundreds more. Of course, in that case we trying to understand the word of God (supposedly.) Here we're trying... more
                    • Re: lost & found in translationVince Garcia, Fri Apr 6 7:18pm
                      Again, good reasoning. And I definitely understand the issue w/regional dialects. (There were like 30 regional dialects of Aramaic so when someone asks a question like, "How would that translate from ... more
                    • Re: lost & found in translationChrisV, Fri Apr 6 6:23am
                      Dan, I dont normally rate guys, but I think that both Sundance and Butch were both in the category of handsome guys. To judge one a little uglier, to me doesn't make sense if it were the outlaws. You ... more
                  • VincePat, Fri Apr 6 6:06am
                    Christ wasn't white and blond either or hanked a pug nose.
                    • Re: VinceVince Garcia, Fri Apr 6 8:01pm
                      You were there and saw what He looked like? Other than supposing He looked something like the guy on the Shroud of Turin, I have mo idea what Jesus looked like or what color His hair or complexion... more
            • Re: nasal morpometricsChrisV, Thu Apr 5 9:16am
              Dan, Thanks for chiming in, however, Im not buying it. The nose is but one description that is dissimilar to the two outlaws. The only thing these two deceased hoodlums had in common with Butch and... more
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