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Dumb and Dumber
Wed Apr 4, 2018 9:13pm

It could be Lloyd and Harry.

  • A Hot LeadChrisV, Wed Apr 4 3:32pm
    The San Vicente pair could have been the Skipper and Gilligan. Anyone looked into that? Its a hotter lead than it being Butch and Sundance. :)
    • Dumb and Dumber — neglib, Wed Apr 4 9:13pm
      • Re: Dumb and DumberChrisV, Thu Apr 5 6:23am
        Brett, I can't believe for years people fell for this garbage of a story. The inquest papers are there for them to read, the descriptions, etc. Anyone with half a brain can see it is not them. Yet... more
        • Re: Dumb and DumberDaniel Buck, Thu Apr 5 10:06am
          Part two: Let's look at the medio ñato question from another angle, etymology and usage of the word ñato. Warning, there's no simple answer. An 1875 dictionary says ñato origin is Quechua, ñanppi,... more
        • nasal morpometricsDaniel Buck, Thu Apr 5 8:49am
          Chris, Let's look at the bright side, the "medios natos" question is an excuse to brush up on our nasal morphometrics. At the time we were translating the Expediente, a bi-lingual Bolivian rendered... more
          • Try leaving out the white guys.Pat, Thu Apr 5 9:21am
            In Roger's version he says a Rubio is a light skinned Spaniard. So it could be a spaniard with blue eyes and lighter hair plus a shorter nose than the indian natives. Or andeans. Since Pero did not... more
            • Re: Try leaving out the white guys.Daniel Buck, Thu Apr 5 10:04am
              Pat, The Expediente was compiled November 1908 to March 1909 by the Tupiza district attorney. That's the original, the document we are working off of, the one I am quoting from. There is no mention... more
              • Re: Try leaving out the white guys.Vince Garcia, Thu Apr 5 7:33pm
                Excellent comments. We have the same problem in trying to translate some fine points in Biblical texts. This has led me to wonder if you can comment on the point Christ brought up about the word... more
                • lost & found in translationDaniel Buck, Fri Apr 6 6:07am
                  Vince, biblical translations have fueled disputes for hundreds of years, and will for hundreds more. Of course, in that case we trying to understand the word of God (supposedly.) Here we're trying... more
                  • Re: lost & found in translationVince Garcia, Fri Apr 6 7:18pm
                    Again, good reasoning. And I definitely understand the issue w/regional dialects. (There were like 30 regional dialects of Aramaic so when someone asks a question like, "How would that translate from ... more
                    • Re: lost & found in translationDaniel Buck, Sat Apr 7 5:24am
                      Vince, there are three later photos, two from Argentina, ca. 1904, and one from Bolivia, ca. 1908, but the resolution is not great. In the Bolivia photo SK looks like he has thickened around the... more
                  • Re: lost & found in translationChrisV, Fri Apr 6 6:23am
                    Dan, I dont normally rate guys, but I think that both Sundance and Butch were both in the category of handsome guys. To judge one a little uglier, to me doesn't make sense if it were the outlaws. You ... more
                    • Re: lost & found in translationDaniel Buck, Fri Apr 6 6:41am
                      Chris, it's more important what Remigio Sánchez thought. That said, I don't think it's unreasonable, based on the few photographs we have, to describe Sundance as "bien parecido" and Cassidy as "un... more
                • VincePat, Fri Apr 6 6:06am
                  Christ wasn't white and blond either or hanked a pug nose.
                  • Re: VinceVince Garcia, Fri Apr 6 8:01pm
                    You were there and saw what He looked like? Other than supposing He looked something like the guy on the Shroud of Turin, I have mo idea what Jesus looked like or what color His hair or complexion... more
          • Re: nasal morpometricsChrisV, Thu Apr 5 9:16am
            Dan, Thanks for chiming in, however, Im not buying it. The nose is but one description that is dissimilar to the two outlaws. The only thing these two deceased hoodlums had in common with Butch and... more
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