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Simon Casson
Horse-Mule Relays: Andes
Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:50am

Hi Chris,
Good question, but doubtful if anyone could definitively answer. Relays always pose a problem. Holding horses. This was the biggest challenge we had, keeping them secure. And hobbles do nothing. If you haven't read our book, you should. There's enough material in there from border to border. Big problem in the Andes is and was then: feed. Who's going to hold them, for how long, who's bringing in the feed-water. A standard horse for daily duty covering 20 miles day needs around 10 gallons - when it's in the hundreds - more. Despite beliefs there may have been others in/around SV, I'd bet Cassidy & The Kid were alone. They were staying over with AG Francis then left to hit the Aramayo payroll. Dan Buck-Anne Meadows are experts in So-Am and Limbert Lopez is an excellent historian per ther Bolivian escapades. Have you got all the books..?

  • Re: Two Mules for Butch & SundanceChrisV, Fri Apr 13 7:38am
    Hi, thanks for your comments. Do you know if they had mules/horses for relay after the Aramayo Robbery? best, Chris
    • Horse-Mule Relays: Andes — Simon Casson, Sat Apr 14 12:50am
      • Re: Horse-Mule Relays: AndesChrisV, Sat Apr 14 6:14am
        Hi Simon, Bought the kindle edition yesterday afternoon and finished most of it last night. Well done. Not very many people would do what you did. Im jealous. I was talking to a hand that works for... more
        • Bolivia/Andes/HorsesSimon Casson, Sat Apr 14 8:21am
          Hi Chris, Thanks for buying the kindle version. If you become immersed, get a 2nd edition book - you can pencil notations. The ride was hard graft. Our outfitters helped two Swedes mount a similar... more
          • Re: Bolivia/Andes/HorsesChrisV, Sat Apr 14 1:23pm
            Thanks Simon, Again very jealous of your adventure. Glad to hear you would use a combo of both horses and mules to fit the terrain. As I said earlier, thats what my cowboy buddy said. My kindle... more
        • square peg in round hole exerciseDaniel Buck, Sat Apr 14 7:17am
          Chris, you are trying to pound a square peg in a round hole. And you bring up once again the "if they were smart" angle, i.e, woulda, coulda, shoulda. What we have is what happened, not what we think ... more
          • Re: square peg in round hole exerciseChrisV, Sat Apr 14 11:00am
            You are using the wrong puzzle pieces Dan. All of the info does not add up to it being them. "Crime is an unforgiving business" that is something I do agree with you on. Butch and SK knew that as... more
          • You keep forgetting about GricePat, Sat Apr 14 7:49am
            His partner Tex, and all the other outlaws in the area. Grice did Rio Gallegos and other robberies. He was in Chile with Sundance and said Butch had gone to BA . By 1908 Butch was in Tupezia with... more
            • Re: You keep forgetting about GriceDaniel Buck, Sat Apr 14 10:07am
              Pat, Herbert Grice as I recall was back in the US by 1906 -- correct? -- thus out of the picture in terms of Bolivia. As for Butch Cassidy being the Englishman Frank Murray or the North American Ray... more
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