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ChrisV
Sundance's Monograms
Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:46pm
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How true is it that Sundance monogramed everything he owned? The reason I ask, tall, handsome, fat, upturned nose guy's items were collected and itemized after the murder/suicide. Nothing is mentioned of initials on any items.

    • Re: Sundance's MonogramsVince Garcia, Sat Apr 14 6:17pm
      Wasn't he supposedly monogramming things when he was ranching and living/working (maybe in a bunkhouse) with other men? A similar thing is done by GIs when they are in the army barracks but they... more
      • Re: Sundance's MonogramsBob Goodwin, Thu Apr 19 5:45am
        The Frank Hadsell papers scribbled in Hadsell's daybook for 1902 has what the Pinkertons probably used as their description for Longabaugh. "Harry Longbaugh alias Frank Jones. German decent age 34, 5 ... more
        • Bravo to Bob and Dan on this Mark Mszanski, Fri Apr 20 7:36am
          Interesting finds on Frank Jones ( SK ) - Bob - Believe at one point you had a bead on him around 1900 spending time in Texas ( Galveston ) area but cannot recall if the year is correct. Sincerely,
          • Mark*ChrisV, Fri Apr 20 8:24am
            Lets put an end to this. Have you personally seen the SK and Etta signatures at Kew? Yes or No
            • Chris the answer is yesPat, Sat Apr 21 9:30am
              By not answering he tells us that he went to Kew , forged the signatures , then went back to NY and ordered them from St John's. And by extension the Kew knows it but doesn't want the scandal known.
        • Re: Sundance's MonogramsDaniel Buck, Thu Apr 19 6:16am
          Bob, Interesting. Who got what from whom is the question, or are they separate observations? The undated "Chas Ayers" card in the Pinkerton files is similar but some differences. Donna Ersnt (2009),... more
      • Re: Sundance's MonogramsDaniel Buck, Sun Apr 15 11:20am
        Vince, scribbled on an small card in the Pinkerton files are some undated, handwritten notes, titled " Desc Harry/Alonzo from Chas. Ayers Dixon, Wyo." Among the notes: "Marks his clothes 'H.L.' with... more
        • Re: Sundance's MonogramsChrisV, Mon Apr 16 5:05am
          Wish they would have taken a better inventory. Im assuming all items have been lost to time. The binoculars intrigue me as they are expensive and most people I know even today mark them so people... more
          • Re: Sundance's MonogramsDaniel Buck, Mon Apr 16 5:34am
            Chris, as I've pointed out before, the shorter vs. taller observations came from Remigio Sánchez, the eyewitness who saw them when they arrived in San Vicente. I think it's reasonable to conclude... more
            • Re: Sundance's MonogramsChrisV, Mon Apr 16 5:38am
              ok. Still not a big enough difference to categorize one as tall and one as short IMO but Im sure you will disagree which is fine.
              • Re: Sundance's MonogramsDaniel Buck, Mon Apr 16 5:56am
                Chris, We don't know exactly how tall BC&SK actually were, in bare feet, shoes, or boots (or stilletos), so the discussion is a bit theoretical. That said, if the difference was two inches, that's... more
      • Re: Sundance's MonogramsChrisV, Sun Apr 15 7:15am
        I dont have my sources here to say Vince. Wasn't there something Pinkertons put out on it? Along with him liking Ralston cereal? As far as GIs doing that during the war. You bring up a good point. I... more
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