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Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:16pm

I Have always thought it James Ryan the friend of Harry in Sundance,WY and also had family near the MT ranch where Harry worked. He had a niece and nephew also James Ryan born in Canada near Mass and they came west later when the parents brothers left Canada for MT.The parents both died by 1899 and the kids were both gone right after the 1900 Census. I never found them again. I cannot do research anymore and wish someone could do it for me.

It is also a sure thing that the Tea party picture in Cholila is probably Harry and wife .But the guy in back in chair has a narrow face and long chin. Reminds me of Grice who was there at the time 1902 to 1906. He also was with Harry in Chile .

  • James RyanNicholas, Fri Apr 27 2:44pm
    Pat I believe a better question would be which James Ryan. I checked one time and there were a bunch of them just in Wyoming. Best wishes to yourself and Bob.
    • Agree — Pat, Fri Apr 27 5:16pm
      • Re: AgreeJuha, Sat Apr 28 12:20pm
        The guy in the back is Butch all right. Older, thinner face, amaciated perhaps, same chin, same overall look and head shape. Sundance got fatter and developed an upturned pug-nose, Butch wasted away, ... more
        • Its a miracleChrisV, Sat Apr 28 4:50pm
          Really? How does a grown man develop an upturn nose from a roman nose? LOL
          • Re: Its a miracleJuha, Sun Apr 29 12:46am
            Well, looking at the Cholila tea party photo I can see Kid's nostrils...and he is looking straight at the camera, not at the sky.
            • Re: Its a miracleDaniel Buck, Sun Apr 29 8:53am
              Juha, The tea party photo has excellent provenance. A descendant of Sundance's sister Samanna Longabaugh shared it, along with a copy of the jinetes photo, with Wild Bunch researchers in the 1970s.... more
              • DAN, OMG!Pat, Sun Apr 29 11:14am
                There is no provenance on the Tea party photo. It Donna pretending that some relative supposed found it 70 years AFTER it was sent. Now if the photos and diary were all lost and family couldn't... more
                • repeat after me: measure twice, cut onceDaniel Buck, Sun Apr 29 12:07pm
                  Pat, Repeat after me: measure twice, cut once. Donna Ernst reproduced the tea party and jinetes photos in her 1992 book, Sundance My Uncle, published 25 years before she first went to Argentina. Dan... more
                  • You have dementia DanPat, Mon Apr 30 8:22am
                    You deny Lula or Jano but believe a lying thief like Donna because she is your friend. I still remember her coming up to Fremont country driving from Rock Springs right past me in Lander to my fiends ... more
                    • tacos are North AmericanDaniel Buck, Mon Apr 30 9:13am
                      Dear Pat, It's nice to know that the stroke has not affected your dyspepsia. Dan PS Tacos are a North American food, originally from Mexico, not South American. Details here,... more
                  • Take Your Own Advice DanChrisV, Sun Apr 29 12:43pm
                    You need to take your own advice One of many examples of your poor research is the Santiago Ryan signature published as authentic. Was DEBUNKED .....and so on.
              • Re: Its a miracleJuha, Sun Apr 29 10:36am
                Dan, I totally agree, I was just stirring the pot.
                • Re: Its a miracleDaniel Buck, Sun Apr 29 12:09pm
                  Juha, understood. I was just summarizing the evidence for the OWR peanut gallery. Dan
                  • Minecraftneglib, Sun Apr 29 5:28pm
                    If you look closely it could be Steve or Alex. Take your pick. Brett
                • Reprimand from DanChrisV, Sun Apr 29 11:44am
                  Careful Dan only likes Yes Men.
              • Two legit photos of SundanceChrisV, Sun Apr 29 9:06am
                Ive been over this cabin thing with you. Prove it. Show us pictures that line up with the cabin in the photo. We have two photos of Sundance that are 100% him. He has a roman nose, not a pug nose.... more
                • "medios ñatos," not pug noses. Daniel Buck, Sun Apr 29 9:11am
                  Chris, Let's stick the the record: San Vicente eyewitness Remigio Sánchez described the two bandits' noses as "medios ñatos," not pug noses. Best, Dan
                  • Brett Has a Great PointChrisV, Sun Apr 29 5:56pm
                  • 1901 eyewitnessesneglib, Sun Apr 29 5:30pm
                    Dan, What do the 1901 eyewitnesses in SOAM say about their noses? Best, Brett
                  • Re: "medios ñatos," not pug noses. ChrisV, Sun Apr 29 9:27am
                    Funny in the tea party photo it is a pug nose. Hmmmm. Medios natos would not include a roman nose. Hmmmm I think we all agree Fort Worth Five photo is Sundance. I think we all Agree the NY photo with ... more
            • Re: Its a miracleChrisV, Sun Apr 29 6:35am
              Then its not Sundance in the photo. Your born with an upturned nose. Sundance had a roman nose. Add on top of it the girl doesn't look like Etta and the guy doesn't look like Butch. The cabin in the... more
        • Not ButchChrisV, Sat Apr 28 3:36pm
          Nonsense. Not Butch at the very least.
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