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Re: perspective & manipulation
Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:15am

You think Im doing this on purpose? To deceive? No buddy. Im not like that. I sincerely am looking for the truth. I thought the Riders photo was legit, but am beginning to wonder who is in the photo.

Lets put the location of the Tea Party photo behind us. Admit that it is not their cabin. To me, you are the one trying to deceive.

  • perspective & manipulationDaniel Buck, Tue Sep 11 5:05am
    Chris, Compounding the perspective issues, you've manipulated the jinetes details. You can't just pluck out of a photograph people standing along a perhaps 40 to 50 foot angled line, with at least... more
    • Re: perspective & manipulation — ChrisV, Tue Sep 11 5:15am
      • Purpose and disclosure mark, Wed Sep 12 4:21am
        Your not doing this on purpose. Ok. But your trying to make a case without looking at the photo in its entirety. Your hypothesis is flawed as a result. Your making a case without context. Again,... more
        • CabinsChrisV, Wed Sep 12 5:03am
          For the record, I am not an expert in photography. I was pointing something out. Take it for what you will. Etta who is next to SK is much shorter than she should be. She is also not the same size as ... more
          • The Cabin and it's growthBob Goodwin, Wed Sep 12 6:05am
            Initially I have believed that the Jinetes photo of the riders, and the Tea Party photos were taken on opposite sides of the cabin. That is not so. They were both taken on the same side of the cabin! ... more
            • I give you creditChrisV, Fri Sep 14 5:08am
              Its good to see someone on here not being a sheep. Bob obviously sees theres a problem with the Tea Party cabin and tried to figure it out instead of just going with the flock. Thanks Bob. I think... more
            • Bachelor pad Mark, Thu Sep 13 12:14am
              Bob. Pretty neat. Thanks for this. No idea that Butch had his own little pad. On additions, it is not unreasonable to assume they made mods as time went on. Thanks for this.
            • Re: The Cabin and it's growthDaniel Buck, Wed Sep 12 8:26am
              Bob, your observation is a welcome reminder of what we do not know, or to go full Rumsfeld, what we don't know we don't know. The two photographs represent but two brief moments in the BC&SK&EP... more
              • Re:Bob Goodwin, Thu Sep 13 6:05am
                Dan, I agree, The length between the two windows on the front side of the cabin, unless there is some perspective problem in the photo, is much too close. However, the back of the cabin presents even ... more
              • Good Morning DanChrisV, Thu Sep 13 4:55am
                Ill accept your silence as you've finally come to your senses and realized its impossible for that cabin to be the Cholila cabin. Look on the bright side, the three individuals haven't been debunked... more
              • SilenceChrisV, Wed Sep 12 2:50pm
                Come on Dan. Your supposed to be a witty guy. Please explain how its possible the Tea Party is the Cholila cabin.
              • Re: The Cabin and it's growthChrisV, Wed Sep 12 10:56am
                Without this becoming a blood sport as you called it, please explain how the Tea Party photo is the westside of the Cholila cabin. Anyone can see it is too short and has the problems that I explained ... more
            • Re: The Cabin and it's growthvince garcia, Wed Sep 12 7:52am
              Wait, bob--when you say they added a new bedroom, wouldn't that have been Butch;'s bedroom? Might the small shack have been for the ranch hands or Wenceslao Solis?
              • Re:Bob Goodwin, Thu Sep 13 6:36am
                Vince, according to the Sepulvedas and Gavirati the other cabin was where Butch lived. There were other buildings on the site in addition to just the two buildings.
                • Re:vince garcia, Thu Sep 13 11:04am
                  Interesting. I would wonder why the extra bedroom then. Did they expect that many guests? Maybe they did. Of course, my memory is always bad, but I thought I recalled reading Butch gave up his bed... more
            • Re: The Cabin and it's growthChrisV, Wed Sep 12 6:58am
              Looking at the shadows, wouldn't that have the sun coming out of the north?
              • Re: The Cabin and it's growthChrisV, Wed Sep 12 7:16am
                shadows in both Tea party and jinentes pointing in same direction, so must not be north. I stand corrected. Measure the Tea Party length. Take away the section you are talking about in the Jinentes... more
          • Sundance, Giant of a manBob Goodwin, Wed Sep 12 5:33am
            For the record I am not a photo expert either, you did point out something that looked puzzling. From looking at the photo for many minutes, and examining it. It does have perspective problems as... more
            • Re: Sundance, Giant of a manDaniel Buck, Wed Sep 12 5:48am
              Perspective distortion & other photographic headaches. Not only is EP behind and to SK's left, BC is way off to SK's right.
      • hmm, changing the subjectDaniel Buck, Tue Sep 11 5:33am
        Chris, whether the jinetes details were manipulated on purpose or out of ignorance about perspective, scale, etc., is a separate issue, but they were manipulated. In simpler terms, we are back to... more
        • Re: hmm, changing the subjectChrisV, Tue Sep 11 5:49am
          Expected as much....Id have a lot more respect for you if you admitted the Tea Party cabin is not their cabin.
          • Lumpy VoorheesMark, Tue Sep 11 1:05pm
            Always wrong never in doubt. Try not to argue things you dont understand to begin with.
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