vince garcia
Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:52am

btw, EB had kind of a bad reputation and notoriety going back to the mid 90s that I know of. I might suppose she would be recognized by the sheriff and marshal, or someone else, (not even dealing with her husband's potential recognizability) if that was her

  • Yes, good analysisBob Goodwin, Tue Feb 26 6:07am
    Vince, I never said that Mont and Ella Butler were John F. Ackley and Flora Bailey. Ackley and Bailey were just some random Kansas couple getting married in SLC. If Flora Bailey, soon to be Flora... more
    • Re: Yes, good analysisvince garcia, Tue Feb 26 7:32pm
      Well, as you know, I disagree they were a KS couple. They CLAIMED they were, but the girl does not appear in KS birth records. Plenty of guys under the man's name are in records so no help there. I'm ... more
      • re:Bob Goodwin, Thu Feb 28 5:43am
        So your contention is that Flora, the Lady that turned up in Springville the day of the robbery was traveling under her married name Ackley before she was actually married, and not her own maiden... more
        • re:vince garcia, Thu Feb 28 5:05pm
          I think it is very possible though not 100% conclusive. Yes they would have been in on the robbery. I'm saying the three guys were the Currie gang. The girl I believe was EP but could have been... more
          • re:Bob Goodwin, Mon Mar 4 6:37am
            Thanks Vince. I think you have convinced me that Ell Butler was probably not involved in the Springville Robbery. Though her husband Mont Butler probably was. It also appears that Etta Place was not... more
            • re:vince garcia, Tue Mar 5 3:37am
              I would question it can be proven that john ackley is the right ackley because there were so many of them around and the girl can't be IDed in census records. So whomever they are, they have to... more
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