Re: Chris
Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:20am

Your skepticism is well-founded. One can confect just about any scenario based on newspaper anecdotes and old-timer tales.

A case in point is the supposed Walt Coburn sighting of Harvey Logan and Butch Cassidy, a classic old-timer tale if there ever was one.

The backstory: In his 1968 book, Pioneer Cattleman in Montana, a 79 year old Walt Coburn told of an incident that had supposedly occurred 67 years earlier, when he was 12, on precisely 3 July 1901, the very day of the holdup. What a memory. His retelling of said incident includes lots of word-for-word dialogue with the four men. What a memory. Did he record the conversation on his iPhone?

He said recognized two of the men from wanted posters as Harvey Logan and Butch Cassidy. Did he now? The Wagner wanted poster was unlikely to have been Instagrammed to the 12 year old Coburn out on the range, and in any event had no photos of the suspects, nor any names, just the description of "the three men connected with the hold up." Oh, and it was issued 4 July 1901, the day after Coburn's encounter.

As it turned out, by late 1901 two of the trio, Ben Kilpatrick and Harvey Logan, were under arrest in Missouri and Tennessee respectively for passing stolen Wagner currency, and the third, O.C. Hanks narrowly escaped arrest in Tennessee for the same offense. A few months later a drunk and belligerent Hanks was shot dead by police in San Antonio cat house. The end of the trio.

  • Chrisvince garcia, Tue Jun 11 4:49am
    Hi Chirs--can you tell me what 'many eyewitnesses put Butch and SD at the scene of the Wagner robbery'? The predominant claim was that there were three robbers seen with some claiming they saw a... more
    • Re: Chris — Anonymous, Tue Jun 11 11:20am
    • additionChrisV, Tue Jun 11 7:28am
      lets not forget PRIOR that Pinkertons have Sundance and Jack Egan going from Price to Vernal to Baggs. Look on a map the direction they are heading.
    • WagnerChrisV, Tue Jun 11 6:15am
      Hi Vince, I encourage you to get Brett and I's article Nineteen Aught-One Finding Butch and Sundance. I say that, because it gives you an accurate account of events during this time period. You can... more
      • Re: Wagnervince garcia, Tue Jun 11 4:57pm
        Thanks, chris. It strikes me what was going on was folks mistaking BK for sundance and calling HIM Longabaugh, and in Coburn's case mistaking deaf charley for Butch assuming that story is true, as... more
        • Thanks VinceChrisV, Tue Jun 11 5:06pm
          Your 02 cents is valued and appreciated. Thanks
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