Daniel Buck
fandangoing
Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:32pm
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You are mixing up who said what, and you describe the Pinkerton agent as an "eyewitness." which he was not.

What the agent scribbled is not a model in clarity, but here it is: "It's believed was in hospital last summer 1901 Buffalo, NY pistol shot wound leg he said he got in the extreme west, and said he had relatives in Montclair, Pa."

That's a mix of "it's believed" -- someone believes -- with "he said," and "he said." Is the "he" a Pinkerton informant? A Longabaugh family member or friend talking with someone who later spoke with a Pinkerton? Was it Sundance talking with someone who later told a Pinkerton informant. We do not know.

Regardless, the fact that part of the jumbled sentence is accurate does not make all of it true. I think we can surmise that the Pinkertons were nosing around the Longabaugh family and picking up some useful information.

Above all, the Pinkerton agent is not, as you and Freeman described him an "eyewitness." That's known as gilding the lily.

Anyway, against those jumbled notes are Pinkerton reports and documents in Argentina demonstrating Longabaugh and Cassidy's presence there during the 1901 period in question.






  • SemanticsChrisV, Wed Jun 12 2:50pm
    Think what you want to think if it makes you feel better. It still doesn't change the fact the witness said Sundance was from Montclair PA. Saying "so what the agent heard or recalled he heard, was... more
    • fandangoing — Daniel Buck, Wed Jun 12 3:32pm
      • A Rock and HardplaceChrisV, Wed Jun 12 3:46pm
        I get it dan. But your grasping at straws The sentence is pretty clear. ""It's believed was in hospital last summer 1901 Buffalo, NY pistol shot wound leg he said he got in the extreme west, and said ... more
        • Re: A Rock and HardplaceDaniel Buck, Wed Jun 12 4:31pm
          If the Pinkerton agent was talking with a Buffalo hospital staffer, which is possible, because we do not know who he was speaking with, why the "it's believed" qualifier? Was the staffer not certain... more
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