Daniel Buck
Re: Magician's Trick
Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:08am
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Rocky,
"We need to fix forensics. But how?"
Washington Post, 20 June 2019

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/06/20/we-need-fix-forensics-how/?utm_term=.8784299e0973

The writer solicited opinions from scientists, lawyers, judges, and academics.

One of the respondents summarized the situation with expert testimony nicely:

"A. There is a question whether an area is scientific or not?

"B. There is a question whether an expert is indeed an expert in the area in question?

C. There is a question of whether an expert in this area did their job properly (e.g., follow scientific protocols and best practices, etc.).

"Of course, if 'A ' is a 'no ', end of story; but even if 'A' is a ‘yes’, then 'B' or/and 'C' can be a ‘no’. Furthermore, the answer to all the three questions above (A, B, & C) is not a yes/no dichotomy, but a continuum with many shades of gray."

More here,
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/apnewsbreak-texas-says-rapid-dna-supplier-jeopardizes-cases/2019/06/20/27bffed8-9318-11e9-956a-88c291ab5c38_story.html?utm_term=.a4fd24791530

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/06/18/criminologists-testimony-about-red-stained-towel-helped-win-murder-convictions-it-wasnt-blood/?utm_term=.824daf308311

And this, which I had somehow overlooked when it ran last April, on the media's unfortunate role in glorifying gee-whiz science:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/04/02/journalists-need-stop-enabling-junk-forensics/?utm_term=.b440e217b512

  • Re: Magician's TrickRocky, Fri Jun 14 9:02am
    Dan, I am sorry I was not clear in my previous response. I have no problem with the conservative or liberal nature of the article. I have a problem with someone using a media article as scientific... more
    • Re: Magician's Trick — Daniel Buck, Fri Jun 21 3:08am
      • Re:Magician's TrickRocky, Mon Jun 24 5:14pm
        Dan, Are you sure you aren't the magician here? I appreciate the article in Scientific American. It's another media piece, regardless of where it was published, Scientific literature is from peer... more
        • Re:Magician's TrickDaniel Buck, Mon Jun 24 6:29pm
          "I also did some follow-up with Chris. I find it disingenuous for you to write an article debunking facial recognition and photographic analysis AFTER you had received a copy of the analysis and... more
    • Re: Magician's TrickDaniel Buck, Fri Jun 14 10:00am
      Rocky, not to put too fine a point on it but people criticizing aspects of forensics are themselves scientists. In fact, one of the major reports was issued by the US National Academy of Sciences.... more
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