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Cathy Spude
Soapy and July 4, 1898
Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:53am
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To start, Jeff, thank you for the invitation to comment on your discussions of my book. It is unfortunate that words in print to not allow us to share facial expressions and tone of voice. I think you often assume I am saying something that I do not mean at all, and I've been surprised that you have taken some of my statements to mean something negative or antagonistic, when that was not intended. Please be assured I am trying to get to the truth -- as I understand it. I do understand that of you as well.

That said, I will approach the subject of the 4th of July Parade slowly, asking for a point of clarification, and and then one question for the time being.

In your scenario of how Soapy became the leader of the parade, you point to the KLGO-00532 photograph as evidence that he led the parade on its return trip south down Broadway. Am I correct in this interpretation of your description?

If that is so, how do you explain the rear end of the coach with its attached American flags that appears in the lower right hand part of the photograph?

  • Did Soapy Smith lead the July 4, 1898 parade?Jeff Smith, Sat Nov 24 3:14am
    Many older history books on Soapy Smith have him leading the fourth of July parade in Skagway, Alaska 1898. In her book Cathy Spude says no. I have my own opinion. See both at the following link .... more
    • Soapy and July 4, 1898 — Cathy Spude, Sat Nov 24 9:53am
      • The photo.Jeff Smith, Sat Nov 24 11:31am
        Thank you, Cathy. The photograph (KLGO-00532) is not the "return trip" south down Broadway, it is the first run through. The return trip most likely turned around and went north-bound. Jeff Smith
        • The photo.Cathy Spude, Sun Nov 25 9:45am
          Thank you, Jeff. And the carriage in front of Soapy and the pack train? Cathy
          • What about it? (nm)Jeff Smith, Sun Nov 25 11:16am
            • July 4 ParadeCathy Spude, Sun Nov 25 2:17pm
              Are you saying that coach is NOT part of the parade?
              • Cathy, you are confused...Jeff Smith, Sun Nov 25 2:31pm
                I never said that coach was not a part of the parade. Read the article again. Again, that photograph showing Soapy in the parade was taken as the parade made its FIRST trek down (south-bound)... more
                • July 4 ParadeCathy Spude, Mon Nov 26 10:16am
                  Ahhh, now I think I understand your scenario. You imagine the parade starting at the NORTH end of Broadway, proceeding south to the waterfront, and intending to end in front of city hall, but instead ... more
                  • Re: July 4 ParadeJeff Smith, Mon Nov 26 12:56pm
                    Cathy, there are few accounts of the actual parade. E. J. "Stroller" White states, " ... it was clear where the parade was to start" ( Stroller White p.47) Looking at the photographs of the parade,... more
                    • Parade RouteCathy Spude, Mon Nov 26 4:26pm
                      Yes, Jeff. Thank you for clarifying. The PATRIOTIC DAY parade was on May 1. I am pleased to see that you are entertaining the idea that there may have been a Decoration Day Parade on May 30. I am... more
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