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RAMoe
Re: Great News
Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:25
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It's great news and awful news at the same time. That the payroll of this team this year is the same as it was in the late 90s at Qualcomm is pretty disgusting considering the baseball financials of the last 15 years, and that a baseball sale has now dragged on for what, four, five years? The team isn't on half of the TV sets in San Diego County this year, and to start the season they are playing baseball like the 70s versions of the team. At the same time, I wasn't thrilled with Moorad turning the team into Arizona Further West...and we have a much improved farm system that hopefully will buck all Padre history and produce thriving players who remain with this team for an extended period.

I think Magic Johnson as the front of the LA Dodgers is a joke...an insurance consortium owns the team, and Magic will be the face with no power. The Dodgers will likely win...I think the pall of McCourt will lift and that intangible will help, but also this new group will spend money to make money, so the Dodgers will finally be that financial superpower MLB wanted for the franchise. Fans will pay the price. There are not nearly the financial opportunities in San Diego unless someone could tap into the Mexico market (and I'd love to see someone do an in-depth study on why such a synergy has not happened, despite some efforts in the past in pairing up ticket initiatives with the tenures of Valenzuela and later AGon), and Mark mentioned there is not that kind of money in SD, so you're looking at a business or an out-of-towner, and I'm afraid Mark Cuban doesn't really want the Padres. Anything would almost assuredly be better than what we have now, but most stuff wouldn't be much better...leading to great disappointment.

As for the 2012 team...I've been away from the board for the most part since we traded AGon. Still love baseball, and will always support the Padres, but I can't follow them as closely...they are boring and bad, and I have too many pulls on my life to continue to make the big investment unless there is any return. We have no connections to the 2006 playoff team, and very few to the surprise team of 2010. I'm supposed to care about the kids, but I invest in Rizzo to see him traded for a reliever. They don't have to win...I've been a fan all my life, so I know they rarely do...but I need something to hang my hat on. No Gonzo, no Bell, no Latos...I'm left with an injured Tim Stauffer, a frustrating Chase Headley, and an underachieving Will Venable as the links to the past. That's not a good way to advertise product while you continue to wait for the winner.

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  • Sickenedjst25, Sun Apr 8 03:11
    Well, the TV contract is a "done" deal according to Moores, and the Padres are getting a $200MM up-front bonus. I'm sure we will hear about how that money is going to upgrades at Petco, an expansion... more
    • Good news? Wahoo Willy, Tue Apr 10 16:44
      Sounds like Moores is putting the team right up for sale again. He's going to make out pretty nicely in the transaction (as will Jeff Moorad and his ownership group). But it sounds like he really has ... more
      • Great NewsMark, Tue Apr 10 19:16
        I think its great news. Like you said, it can't really get much worse. Moorad couldn't cover a week's worth of salaries on his own and Moores doesn't want anything to do with the team.....it's hard... more
        • Re: Great News — RAMoe, Wed Apr 11 12:25
          • Re: Great NewsWahoo Willy, Thu Apr 12 14:49
            Appropriately somber, I think. And I'd imagine you're spot on about Magic Johnson's role in the ownership group. I love Magic, but he's little more than a front guy for another massively leveraged... more
            • On MagicMark, Thu Apr 12 14:52
              I think you guys are discounting the number of opportunities these clubs have to raise revenue in less traditional roles. I think Magic is going to do a good job there as his real estate company has... more
    • Re: SickenedWahoo Willy, Sun Apr 8 18:31
      Yeah, it really has turned into Major League. The sickest part hasn't come yet, either. Moores is going to sell this thing for $600M+. And yeah, Moorad's going to get paid - and probably... more
    • We All Have to RealizeMark, Sun Apr 8 15:23
      According to MLB: The Padres simply don't matter. We aren't the Pirates, but we're close. Well back to Moores. If they wrote this in a movie, I wouldn't have believed it.
      • Re: We All Have to Realizejst25, Mon Apr 9 01:21
        Yeah, true that. McCourt wants to borrow $200MM against what will be a $2-3 billion deal, no dice because TV revenues should stay with the team. But Moores gets $200MM up-front out of a $1 billion,... more
        • Re: We All Have to Realizebatpig, Mon Apr 9 15:20
          I think a major distinction with the McCourt deal was that the other owners already wanted him GONE. Real bad. He had already bled the Dodgers org dry and was basically trying to use the up-front... more
      • Might make things better this yearMcBain, Sun Apr 8 15:34
        Stauffer with the tricep/elbow injury that has too often turned into TJ surgery. Moseley with a strained shoulder five innings into the season. Maybe it'll be easier to deal with the bumps and... more
        • Opportunity knocksChase, Sun Apr 8 16:26
          You feel bad for Stauffer & Moseley looking like they could miss a good chunk and possibly all of the season, though that's premature at this point. Replacing those two from Kelly, Bass, Wieland and... more
          • That Isn't Going to HappenMark, Sun Apr 8 19:15
            I don't think I've ever said this about another Padre-but it's time to cut Hudson. Seriously, pay him his money and tell him to go away. The whole act is just tired and I can't believe he's providing ... more
            • Patience grasshopperChase, Mon Apr 9 02:20
              Personally, I think that's jumping the gun on Hudson. I'm thinking about this from the team's perspective. What are the odds some team loses their 2b and is willing to take Hudson come June or July... more
              • ...But work ethic and effort are something I find important. Everything I've heard about Hudson is that he is just cashing a paycheck. Everything I've seen on the field points to him not caring where ... more
                • effort wiseChase, Tue Apr 10 13:53
                  to my eyes he's been giving it his all defensively this year and has made plays that he wouldn't have made if he was going about it in a lackadaisical way. I agree they need to move on soon, but he's ... more
                  • Re: effort wiseMcBain, Sat Apr 14 10:27
                    If there aren't 20 or 30 better 2b now, that was true over the winter as well. Given our record of unloading mediocre offensive players over the past few years, I'm not holding my breath. He and... more
                    • Re: effort wiseChase, Mon Apr 16 12:08
                      It will be interesting to see how the Bartlett situation resolves. I don't think his option will vest, and doubt he lasts as the starting shortstop through June. He'll be dealt along with 80% of his... more
            • Re: That Isn't Going to HappenWahoo willy, Sun Apr 8 19:35
              Agreed on all accounts. Particularly bummed about stauffer. Bubba!!!
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