Hank's Padre Discussion Group - Re: Joe Wieland promoted

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I think you are short-changing Luebke. He has been pretty much spectacular in his major league career: 3.50 ERA, 1.14 WHIP, 9.84 K/9, 3.04 FIP / 3.12 xFIP. Those numbers are overall lightly BETTER than Latos' career, although to be fair Latos has put up two full seasons as a starter which Luebke hasn't done, but Luebke's peripherals support his numbers so far.

Expecting even one of those three to match Luebke's performance is already optimistic. If one of them is as good as Luebke we should all be delighted, but that's a higher bar than you are painting it to be. Saying "at least two" is bordering on Chase-ish pipe dreaming.

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Joe Wieland promoted — Chase, Wed Apr 11 17:52

I was doing my nightly routine of checking out the boxscores of the Padres affiliates and was wondering why Wieland only lasted 2 innings, despite I think 4 strikeouts. Knew this was a possibility,... more
- Re: Joe Wieland promoted — Alan, Thu Apr 12 11:28
  
  I'm excited for this start. There may not be Latos-like upside here, but if we can get Luebke-level performance out of at least two of Wieland, Erlin and Kelly, there's the makings of a pretty good... more
- - Re: Joe Wieland promoted — batpig, Thu Apr 12 13:35
  - - I appreciate — Chase, Thu Apr 12 14:02
      
      my name and Luebke's success coming in the same post. I agree on expecting any of the young arms to produce at the level that Luebke has early on. To be fair, Luebke's numbers would put him amongst... more
    - - Re: I appreciate — batpig, Thu Apr 12 14:11
        
        I hear ya, I was just pointing out how freaking good Luebke has been. I still think we need to temper our expectations with starting pitching prospects -- expecting 2-out-of-3 of pretty much ANY... more
      - Re: I appreciate — Wahoo Willy, Thu Apr 12 14:40
        
        Agree on the nature of pitching prospects. It's early, but I think we've all been hoping to see what we've seen out of Casey Kelly recently. That his stuff would just sort of win out - Brandon Morrow ... more
        Re: I appreciate — batpig, Thu Apr 12 17:31
        
        don't get me wrong -- I still loved the Latos trade and definitely agree that, on the surface, with the Petco effect in play Volquez should put up comparable overall numbers (sub 4 ERA, lots of K's). ... more
        Re: I appreciate — Chase, Thu Apr 12 15:03
        
        Yeah, the walks are going to prevent Volquez from matching Latos' FIP & xFIP. But in terms of era & K/9, it could be close. Clearly his walks are going to hurt a lot less pitching for the Padres then ... more
        Slowest Man Alive? — Mark, Thu Apr 12 14:53
        
        Is he slower than Adrian? As I recall that was the slowest man alive on 2 legs
  - Kelly in Tucson — Mark, Thu Apr 12 13:05
    
    Alan- Agree completely on those points. Kelly is going to be the interesting one for me. I think we know relatively speaking what we're getting with Wieland. He isn't going to walk anyone and strikes ... more

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