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Chase
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Sun May 6, 2012 18:26
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Alonso's defense has a ways to go. Rizzo to me looked close to Adrian's equal in actions with more athleticism (pretty optimal combo). I am liking Alonso's approach at the plate. Shooting balls the opposite way, hitting doubles every which direction. To sum up, I think Alonso is a guy they'll be fine with at 1b for 4-5 years but isn't someone they look to keep well beyond that. BA did a piece on the average production for all the positions. For 1b that included a .271/.362/.468 line with 30 2b's & 23 HR's. He might reach that homer level in his best year calling Petco home when he hits his prime, but I could see 40-45 2b's and 12-17 HR's being a better representative of Alonso. I think he'll hit for a .280-ish batting average as a Padre, giving him an obp of .370 with his walk rate that seems a good bet to be league average (11.9%) at a minimum overall. Essentially he looks like an average 1b to me considering his glove shortcomings.

As far as Mark's point on Headley, heck yeah a .390/.450 year from Headley would be huge, well above-average, fixture type production (4-5 WAR, maybe a tad higher). I'll be happy if he matches his obp from last year while splitting the gap in SLG from the above and his rate so far. Will be interesting to see if he can get his homerun's into the high teens.

What do you guys think would be the best route with Headley? They keep him, either through 2014 or longer with an extension, or look to trade him for a more needed piece. Of course it's going to depend largely on what some team would give up. Shortstop Andrelton Simmons of the Braves is the type of player that would make sense to target in a Headley trade. An upside player at a position of need that could be up this year. Of course teams seem very reluctant to part with high-end shortstop prospects. The Padres would want another good prospect back in all liklihood, and I wouldn't bet on the Braves willing to part with Simmons. Aside from a stud shortstop, a athletic corner outfielder with excellent power or a starter that is both close to contributing with the upside to head a rotation would top the list.

Here's how our top 3b have performed so far:

Headley (122 PA) .253/.385/.443, 21bb/28k, 7 2b & 4 HR
Darnell (120 PA) .270/.375/.470, 15bb/21k, 5 2b & 5 HR
Gyorko (129 PA) .261/.364/.432, 17bb/23k, 4 2b & 5 HR

Gyorko is 13 games into his tour at 2b. Would be sweet if they pulled it off, hard to pencil him in until he's actually doing it in San Diego though so I'm still assuming if he's in San Diego it's a 3b.

Yasmani Grandal only has 70 PA's at AAA going back to last year, but pretty impressive numbers: .365/.514/.558 with 15bb/11k. I was day dreaming of Towers balking at Montero's demands (4/52) and making a really strong play for Hundley (Skaggs).

A month into the year and they lose Luebke, Blanks and Moseley for the season. A lot of season left, kind of makes for a scary proposition if things get even worse. Of course our M.I. is 100% healthy. Looking forward to that super-high pick in '13.


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  • Luebkelongdistancefriar, Fri May 4 20:54
    Looks like he might be out for a year or so if the diagnosis really calls for Tommy John surgery. The team really seems make bit.... more
    • It's InterestingMark, Fri May 4 22:55
      My first thought was that I was glad it was Tommy John and not shoulder surgery. At least with TJ we know there is what an 80% chance he comes back at least as good as he was before? Shoulder... more
      • True and MIlongdistancefriar, Fri May 4 23:17
        Hudson's at least showing the tiniest signs of production. Bartlett...wow. I know the union is suspicious of cutting someone before the incentives kick in for appearances but there can be no problem... more
        • That DealMark, Fri May 4 23:25
          I'm 99% sure that deal was all about Roach who was on every break out prospect list known to man this offseason. Given Frieri is likely to be expensive by the time we see another good Padres team,... more
          • Re: That DealRich, Sat May 5 00:10
            So what's next? I guess Anthony Rizzo getting called up and hitting like Barry Bonds is a likely choice, given how things have gone so far...
            • walking woundedlongdistancefriar, Sat May 5 11:08
              Add Street to that list. Weird game last night. Really wanted them to be just a little slower tracking down Bass's triple so his first ML hit would be an inside-the-park grand slam.
              • Re: walking woundedMcBain, Sat May 5 16:01
                In our team history, misfortune and poor play are more common than not, but this is absurd. Street was the one player most likely to be moveable for a decent return without really hurting the team,... more
                • predictionjst25, Sat May 5 17:38
                  Next shoe to drop: Rymer Liriano is actually a 50-year-old named Carmelo Martinez.
                  • Re: predictionWahoo willy, Sun May 6 08:52
                    Remarkable. Just not much left to say. It really is a season of major league. The good news(I think) is. That some unknown player will emerge and steal the hearts of the hundreds of padres fans. Eric ... more
                  • Give Me....Headley HurtMark, Sat May 5 18:41
                    I mean, Headley can't continue like he's going can he? More power, same OBP and Defense......that simply can't continue in SD can it?
                    • Headley's bat has gone to sleepChase, Sun May 6 03:31
                      hitting .189/.318/.216 in his last 10 games coming into Saturday. Tucson played a doubleheader today. Everth Cabrera started in CF in the first game and 3b in the second game. Beemer Weemes is... more
                      • On HeadleyMark, Sun May 6 12:31
                        If you asked people if a .390OBP and .453Slug were reasonable, I think mostly everyone would be thrilled with those numbers. Alonso is going to be interesting to watch. I mean, it's nice he's... more
                        • AlonsoMcBain, Sun May 6 12:57
                          Last night was the first time I've seen the team live in a couple of weeks. I'm certainly no scout, but does Alonso's footwork look awful to anybody else? His infielders (and Richard, who should be a ... more
                          • Oh yeah — Chase, Sun May 6 18:26
                            • Marc Kroon? Wahoo Willy, Sun May 6 19:03
                              Man... another rough one. Agreed on Alsonso. He just doesn't look like much of an athlete. He does seem to have a pretty good approach at the plate. The problem with dealing Headley is that he's... more
                              • Alonso's approachChase, Tue May 8 12:31
                                Comparing Alonso this year to Rizzo last year and boy, it really shows the value of simply putting the bat on the ball and having the ability to smack a lot of singles and doubles. Alonso - 111 PA,... more
                                • Re: Alonso's approachMcBain, Tue May 8 14:12
                                  Alonso's going to have to hit a lot more singles and doubles to make up for his lack of HRs. It's far from clear that his ability to put the ball in play makes him a better 1b, especially given the... more
                                  • Re: Alonso's approachChase, Tue May 8 15:18
                                    It's not like Alonso hasn't made adjustments, he has, something Rizzo wasn't able to do at all last year. Clearly he didn't look ready, but when a guy hits as well as he did at AAA and then struggles ... more
                                    • Re: Alonso's approachMcBain, Tue May 8 16:23
                                      I don't know if this is Mark's point or not, but it's hard for me to pin a 14 game hot streak on Alonso making adjustments. In 14 games a couple of bloop doubles, like the one he dinked into RF... more
                                      • Re: Alonso's approachChase, Tue May 8 17:51
                                        I don't know if you are watching more games now then you were in years past, but he's getting some pretty nice hits. There will never be another Tony Gwynn, but Alonso's approach at the plate seems... more
                                        • Re: Alonso's approachMcBain, Tue May 8 19:39
                                          I see an ISO of .101 for Alonso. He'd sure as heck better have a Gwynn-ish batting average for that to be tolerable. I expect he's got better (than he has been, not than Gwynn) in him, but a 115 OPS+ ... more
                                          • Re: Alonso's approachWahoo willy, Tue May 8 20:00
                                            Ive got very little to support it, but yonder reminds me of hal Morris. So, that's not quite as flattering as Wally Joyner. As you suggest now - and I think many of us felt at the time - moving rizzo ... more
                                            • Re: Alonso's approachMcBain, Wed May 9 13:48
                                              Speaking of former Reds, we could go Sean Casey, except not so much batting average. The 99-2000 versions, that's good. The fallen-and-I-can't-get-up model that followed for several seasons, not so... more
                                              • Re: Alonso's approachWahoo Willy, Wed May 9 19:00
                                                I think you're right about "power". I'd be looking for guys who can get to the wall. For me the difference is that I'd be willing to trade some OBP to do it. I wouldn't overpay, but somebody like... more
                                              • Re: Alonso's approachChase, Wed May 9 14:55
                                                Wouldn't bringing in the outfielders like that play well into the teams hands? Less reaction time to stop a ball down the lines and to the gaps. It's not like were talking about a bunch of Luis... more
                                                • Re: Alonso's approachMcBain, Wed May 9 15:55
                                                  Not if the hitters don't have the power to do it. I'm not talking about playing on the rover line, but when the air holds those balls up, and the Padres are running a bunch of underpowered players to ... more
                                            • Re: Alonso's approachChase, Wed May 9 04:50
                                              I think you nailed it about players that put the ball in play being more valuable at Petco then any other park. Guys who can put the ball in play at a high frequency, take a walk at a league average... more
                                              • Re: Alonso's approachWahoo Willy, Wed May 9 17:31
                                                I don't think I follow on Cashner. He's striking out a decent amount of guys, which is the single most important metric. It's early to make any definitive judgment - but he's certainly not striking... more
                                                • CashnerChase, Wed May 9 18:54
                                                  He's allowed runs in only 4 of his 16 outings, with his outing on Saturday being the only one in which he gave up more then 1 run. Opponents hit .175/.313/.325 off him in April. He has an era of 1.94 ... more
                                    • Sample Issues of CourseMark, Tue May 8 15:39
                                      Chase-While I agree that those last 14 games look awfully nice, I wonder how sustainable that .340BA happens to be. I mean, those OBP and SLUG numbers are also really BA driven. It'll be interesting... more
                                      • Re: Sample Issues of CourseChase, Tue May 8 15:45
                                        Alonso's approach, both in contact and limited amount of strikeout's seems to bode well in the average department. Wouldn't bet on him surpassing a .450 slg% playing for the Padres. Could see his obp ... more
                              • dealing HeadleyChase, Mon May 7 12:04
                                I'm not sure finding a team that see's him for what he is would be that daunting of a task, it's not like were talking about an arbitration panel held up soley on batting average, homerun's and... more
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