With the Dbacks wanting MLB players for him, wonder if the Padres could get involved? Would Towers consider Headley, Venable & maybe an arm like Gregerson or Thatcher for him? I would love to dangle... more
I'm not sure what a realistic price is, but I'd meet a reasonable one in a heart beat to get upton. Seems like the situation has deteriorate there a bit. It'd make me a little nervous but there's no... more
I'm not sure we have what it takes. Unless Upton is such a head case that KT simply wants him gone, who can we offer? KT says he wants to win now, and a team 19 games under .500 at the break doesn't... more
know where you were going with that. Agree completely. If they were to acquire him with the idea of packing him off elsewhere It'd be best to do it before he ever played a game at Petco. As far as my ... more
I wouldn't trade Upton to flip him. I didn't mean to post the comment you responded to, just because I didn't want to harp on the park again. I'd love to get Upton, but I just don't know how you... more
I would not be concerned that Upton would be Brian Giles redux for two important reasons: 1. Age 2. Handedness Petco Park crushes LH hitters but Upton is a RH pull hitter. His value will not be... more
The bigger worry might be "What did he do that pissed AZ off so much?" We can't be afraid to take a chance on somebody who gets dinged for intangibles, but the due diligence would need to be... more
I don't know. Upton went from a damn near 6 WAR player to being on the sheet list of Arizona's owner and, apparently, GM. Byrnes' information may be outdated.
but on the other hand we know that KT can occasionally muster up an irrational love/hate for a particular player. He's not exactly the king of buy low / sell high. If Upton's truly available it is a... more
Agree. Our chances of outbidding somebody for Upton, then turning around and getting more for him than we could have by dealing our own players directly, seem very small. It would reek of desperation ... more
There is simply no way Upton gets dealt for that type of package, simply no way. If they were talking about moving him for prospects, then we might have a more interesting conversation, but overall... more
They're rare, not unheard of. The Jays might need to engage a third team if they want Upton, but working with Anthopoulos....not feeling great about that.
"Headley could be one piece sure, but realistically we know KT isn't a big fan which means a 3rd team already has to be involved" Are you saying Towers isn't a big fan of Chase Headley? Would you be... more
Chase-I'm not surprised to hear that, but it isn't my opinion which counts. I wouldn't put KT into the group of GM's who would value his contributions, although I think WW would have a better handle... more
The Padres really did want to have both Headley & Kouz in the lineup and Headley was the more athletic of the two, hence he being the one tasked to LF. Not sure I'd hold that against Headley,... more
Actually, the much harder part of the trade is what happens after Headley. He's appealing to lots of teams, probably including Arizona. But he's not nearly enough on his own for Upton, especially... more
Started off by mentioning KT's demonstrated love affair with Blum, who just came off the DL, then cut it. I doubt he sees Blum as any kind of permanent solution, but KT does have his blind spots.
KT was prepared to trade Headley because he preferred Kouzmanoff. That story was reported in several places. That was a couple years back, but KT is more old-school. He's not buying WAR, at least... more
Considering he could sign Kouzmanoff on a minor league deal right now if he so desired, you think he might realize he was wrong on that thinking? It's not so much explaining why Venable is good, far... more
It has nothing to do with Venable's 2013 salary from Arizona's standpoint. He's become a platoon player here. Arizona doesn't need him for 2012. Why use up any of Upton's value trading for a guy you... more
Venable is a guy I'd be looking to buy low on if I was another team, but I wouldn't pay based on what he hits on the road. Headley is great, but he doesn't have the superstar potential of Upton. I... more
Precisely. This is why the top ranking always seems pretty hollow to me. It's just not possible. They did a good job accumulating depth but... they don't have the juice to make a deal like this.... more
how many of their top-15 prospects that were either at AA/AAA that got hurt, pretty much everyone but Gyorko & Grandall got hurt, seems like the lack of depth is much more injury based then any lack... more
Even healthy, how many of those guys would pique Arizona's interest? Maybe the first three, depending on how they would have performed if they hadn't been injured, but even when everyone had four... more
Your point with even all of the injuries to their top SP prospects, they wouldn't really be a match for an organization very strong on pitching, if it were a prospect package that team was seeking,... more
He was always sold as a very good hitter with xbh power, but more of the double variety. His showings in the minors have been great and I wonder if his power ceiling isn't higher then the above... more
It's been mentioned that Gyorko's numbers at Tucson are very similar to what Rizzo did last year. I thought I'd take a look at the numbers and see how accurate that is. Rizzo - (413 PA):... more
Is putting the ball in play demonstrably a path to success at Petco? I haven't seen any evidence to support it — it's an idea that seems logical, but there needs to be hard data behind it. Not to... more
Yeah, by looking at their approaches you can see Rizzo as the more passive of the two. Sitting on pitches, taking his walks, but also striking out a good deal more because of it, versus hammering a... more
Perhaps a package of Headley, Liriano & Richard would be more realistic. Assuming they could flip Upton to Pitts for Tallion & Marte (nice, more ready replacement for Liriano), though I'm not sure... more