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Sarge
Yay for Walt
Sat Jan 13, 2018 14:10
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Heresy #1

I could never wrap my head around "Fantasia" (never even attempted the second one).

Heresy #2

Can't sit through any Princess films either, "Snow White", "Cinderella", any of 'em.

I much prefer the shorts, Mickey, Donald, Goofy, although I do have one favourite feature-length, "The Jungle Book". I also, for some reason unexplainable, fall for the three "Pooh" animations, that later made the very first of the Winnie-the-Pooh films, the ones narrated by Sebastian Cabot and Pooh voiced by Sterling Holloway. That said, how I admire the artistry and patience to do such things frame-by-frame, gel-by-gel, with such lushness, colour, and quality. Absolutely fantastic stuff; Mel Blanc and Looney Tunes were right up there with Bugs, Daffy, Elmer Fudd. Walt and his crowd didn't have a lock on that talent.

Of Disney's full-length films, I very much preferred their "live-action" features of that period, for example "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea". Yeah, the animation artists were top-drawer and everything, but the setting and effects in that film are just as phenomenal and far more taken for granted.

My preference for live-action spread to shorts, the famous 18 minute "two-reeler" was just as eagerly devoured as the cartoon at any Saturday matinee. I loved Laurel and Hardy, the Three Stooges, all that cheap slapstick stuff. Amasing how it was done, and the artistry was never lacking. These were the same cameramen and directors who shot black-and-white "film-noir", the masterful use of light and shadow added mood and texture to dialogue and action, things like "Casablanca", "Maltese Falcon", the original "Big Sleep" just to name the stereotypical trio. B&W westerns, war films, just about anything and these guys' technical prowess and "eye" made monochrome an art form rivalling any animator and animation.

Much of the '50s and '60s colour was so good because it was shot by these guys that came up in the B&W era, and they shot colour with that same eye to light and shadow that would make or break a black and white film. It wasn't just Hollywood, either, as any Ealing product would prove.

So, not just Disney, but the entire industry was fraught with genius, the results were an event of the senses 'way beyond the social commentary tripe of today. One problem with the ease or potential of CGI is how it actually springs the trap where a film easily overloads the senses, bombarding the viewer to a numbness and leaving nothing to imagination. The art of "just enough" has been forgotten. Of course the other thing forgotten is the moviegoer, and the idea he or she is not there to be lectured or bludgeoned or to worship the likes of Streep, Emma the Shrew, or the other pretentious and narcisistic spoilt brats. The few modern works that rise to the top of the cesspool remember that the moviegoers used to come to have their senses lifted, to be swept away leaving their bodies behind. They came to escape.


    • Re: Yay for Walt - roger, Sun Jan 14 00:36
      Now I do not even need to think about what to say other than DITTO Sarge.
      • Not feeling good are you? - mike, Sun Jan 14 10:21
        Grumpy old sod. Showing affection for ones children does not detract from ones 'blokishness' one iota, quite the reverse in my opinion. However. I'm not surprised that Fantasia didnt appeal to you,... more
        • Re: Not feeling good are you? - roger, Mon Jan 15 09:45
          I first saw Fantasia when I was five and next @ ten. I have always thought that was of great influence on the music that I like. I last watched the original about eight years ago and followed it the... more
        • Maybe I'm not, but... - Sarge, Sun Jan 14 11:32
          ...my dad showed affection if not outright love by other means than "hugginess". something that out of him would be uncharacteristic and to be honest rather uncomfortable for us both. None of this... more
          • Now, on to... - Sarge, Sun Jan 14 12:29
            ...Disney and Brunel for that matter. This is food for thought and intelligent discussion. Where neither Disney nor Brunel are hacks by any means, they seem to be proffered up today as something this ... more
            • Credit me with some intelligence! - mike, Mon Jan 15 08:14
              I admire Brunel because of the breadth of his achievements. Not only was he a fearless 'think outside the box' innovator, he applied his talents to railways, bridges and shipping! He was the first to ... more
              • I do, or I wouldn't have bothered - sarge, Mon Jan 15 11:08
                I approach this from not just genius perhaps, but from the applied side of things. For me, and my point, Brunel isn't head and shoulders above because the application was, in many of his projects,... more
          • me too - mike, Sun Jan 14 12:04
            My experience with my father mirrors yours. It wasnt his affection that I lacked or missed, it was my mothers. She made it quite plain that she preferred my younger brother because he reminded her of ... more
            • Re: me too - roger, Mon Jan 15 09:50
              My parents separated before I was born. Probably saw my father @10 times. Mother was around town and I knew where to find her if neede be. I was raised by maternal grandparents and aunts. I did OK.
            • I understand even more... - Sarge, Sun Jan 14 12:32
              ...completely now why we mirror each other so closely (even when we disagree).
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