RE 5040 Fall 2011
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beasleycm
Response to Phonics
Sat Dec 3, 2011 11:44
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Great presentation! It was very organized and well planned. I do not have experience with kindergarten but it looks like they have shown great improvement. Do you plan to continue with these interventions for the remaining of the year? Do you plan to do this next year?

  • Marlee Wright/Ruth Ann Timmons - koppenhaverd, Tue Nov 8 21:11
    Discuss Marlee and Ruth Ann's small group phonics presentation here.
    • re: small group phonics - Ginger Landers, Wed Dec 14 21:28
      Your presentation was wonderfully organized and easy to follow! I think it is a great idea how you spent even more time with the "more at-risk" students. I think your conclusion that the kids the... more
    • Re: Marlee Wright/Ruth Ann Timmons - Whitney Fisher, Sun Dec 11 14:44
      I like how you looked at both the at risk students and the most at risk students. I think for our Reading Comprehension research study we could have met with some of the students outside of our... more
      • Re: Marlee Wright/Ruth Ann Timmons - Ruth Ann Timmons, Sun Dec 11 17:39
        Thanks Whitney! We have enjoyed the work we have done and plan to continue our interventions. It is exciting to see even the most challenged of students have success. Looking forward to seeing what... more
        • Re: Marlee Wright/Ruth Ann Timmons - whitney fisher, Mon Dec 12 14:09
          I always thought that around three or four students in a small group was a good number! It allows you to see how the students are doing and gives you more one on one time to work with the student.... more
    • Re: Marlee Wright/Ruth Ann Timmons - Ashley Joyce, Sat Dec 10 12:03
      Good work! I feel that small group instruction is important. It gives the students more of that one on one time and makes the teacher able to meet the needs of the students better. I am glad you did... more
      • Small groups - Marlee Wright, Sun Dec 11 21:53
        I love my small group time - I think it is critical, not only for the low students, but for the high ones as well. I think that is the easiest and most effective time to differentiate instruction.... more
        • Re: Small groups - whitney fisher, Tue Dec 13 23:09
          I agree but it is so difficult to have small group time. There are so many things going on in the day and you have to make sure that other students are on task. Small groups are usually so effective... more
          • re: small groups - Ginger Landers, Wed Dec 14 22:03
            I agree that small group time is essential for students at all levels. It is hard to have enough time to incorporate small group sessions, but I think it is essential. Students are able to learn so... more
          • re: small groups - Ginger Landers, Wed Dec 14 21:34
            I agree that small group time is essential for students at all levels. It is hard to have enough time to incorporate small group sessions into the school day, but I believe that it is essential.... more
      • Re: Marlee Wright/Ruth Ann Timmons - Ruth Ann Timmons, Sun Dec 11 17:47
        Thanks Ashley! Small group time is one of my favorite times of the day, the kids love it too. Not to mention how important it is for differentiating instruction. It does become a challenge,... more
        • Re: Marlee Wright/Ruth Ann Timmons - Ashley Joyce, Tue Dec 13 15:36
          I agree with it's importance, but I feel like with so much thrown my way that I HAVE to do...it seem nearly impossible. How do you do it? :) As a first year teacher, I guess one goal needs to be to... more
    • Re: Marlee Wright/Ruth Ann Timmons - burchamal, Thu Dec 8 15:57
      Great job on the presentation. Sometimes I wish I taught a lower grade like kindergarten so I could really delve into phonics instruction. I was recently reading a research report on whole to part... more
      • Re: Marlee Wright/Ruth Ann Timmons - Ruth Ann Timmons, Sun Dec 11 17:54
        Thanks! Phonics instruction is both fun and challenging. I am constantly looking for new ideas to help students master the use of sounds. Seems like the study you read used some of the strategies we... more
    • Small group work - Amanda Solesbee, Wed Dec 7 22:55
      Great idea with the small group phonics for your research project! I will say that I am a 5th grade teacher and for 40 minutes each day I am pulled to work with 5th grade students who are performing... more
      • Re: Small group work - Ruth Ann Timmons, Sun Dec 11 19:47
        Thanks Amanda! "Bless them" is right. Research has proven the earlier the interventions can start, the better. RTI is not my favorite form of the referral process but it is what we are being told to... more
    • Re: Marlee Wright/Ruth Ann Timmons - Nakita Carson, Tue Dec 6 18:46
      Great job ladies! Phonics plays such a major role in early reading development. How in the world did you manage to get all of this done while attending to your regular day?
      • Re: Marlee Wright/Ruth Ann Timmons - Ruth Ann Timmons, Sun Dec 11 19:52
        Thanks Nakita! Thanks to our Enrichment/Intervention block daily we are able to meet with small groups. It is however a challenge to fit everything in but somehow we do it and the kids love it and... more
        • Re: Marlee Wright/Ruth Ann Timmons - crousejs, Wed Dec 14 01:32
          At my school we also have an Enrichment/Intervention block every day for 40 minutes. I also use this time to teach, re-teach, or try a new strategy or method to help or challenge my studentsí... more
      • Our day - Marlee Wright, Wed Dec 7 21:46
        This IS our normal day! We really emphasize working in small groups in our two classes, because we've found that small groups allow us to differentiate instruction. Our school has that... more
        • E/I time - Amanda Solesbee, Wed Dec 7 22:58
          I was wondering how you found time for all of the extra intervention time. We have the same thing at my school. We have 40 minutes each day except for Friday for enrichment and intervention time.... more
    • Phonics - Kara Scott, Mon Dec 5 18:10
      Ladies great presentation and research. Your plan was very well organized and your students showed nice growth through the whole process? Did the interventions take a lot of time out of your day? Do... more
      • Re: Phonics - Ruth Ann Timmons, Sun Dec 11 20:01
        Thanks Kara. As Marlee mentioned, we are planning to continue small groups and the additional intervention time for our most at-risk students. Enrichment/Intervention time is the perfect time block... more
      • Phonics - Marlee Wright, Wed Dec 7 21:48
        Well, most of the kids showed pretty good growth, and we were really pleased with the results. We definitely plan to continue with the small group interventions. They seem to work so much better than ... more
        • RE - Kara Scott, Fri Dec 9 16:45
          Marlee, Glad to hear that you will continue the small group work. Kids do tend to be more focused and gain more in small groups.
    • Phonics - Rachel Hicks, Mon Dec 5 17:45
      I am so excited that you did your research paper on this topic! Do you use the body smart strategies with Imagine It? Where can I find more information/materials for the body smart strategies?
      • Re: Phonics - crousejs, Wed Dec 14 01:35
        I have heard many positive conversations about Imagine It! I think I will look into this phonics program to see if it will help my struggling students. I already pull materials from Fountas and... more
      • Re: Phonics - Ruth Ann Timmons, Sun Dec 11 20:11
        Our school's theme is based on Howard Gardner's theory of multiple intelligences. We call them the "8 Smarts." So "body smart" is actually the bodily-kinesthetic intelligence. Perfect fit the... more
      • Phonics - Marlee Wright, Wed Dec 7 21:54
        The study by Cihon, Gardner, Morrison, & Paul helped us to focus our attention on the "body smart" aspect of the instruction. We used the letter sign from American Sign Language, and then we just... more
    • Small Group Phonics - Sarah patten, Sun Dec 4 15:53
      Excellent!! Smaller group size does make a significant difference! It always seems to be the challenge to make the necessary time for these small groups at least 3 or more times a week. The more... more
      • Re: Small Group Phonics - Ruth Ann Timmons, Sun Dec 11 20:14
        Thanks Sarah! Small groups is definitely one of my favorite things we do all day. I enjoy getting to work with the kids on the level they need and they really thrive with added attention. Wordle is... more
      • note on wordle - koppenhaverd, Sun Dec 4 17:39
        Many of you included Wordles in your presentation and identified themes. Be sure in your final papers to go into more detail about what the themes mean. Give us examples of what kids were doing, what ... more
    • Response to Phonics - beasleycm, Sat Dec 3 11:44
      • Re: Response to Phonics - Ruth Ann Timmons, Sun Dec 11 20:18
        Thanks! Yes, we are planning to continue small groups and the additional block of time for our most at-risk students. After sharing our findings with our team and administration, I can all but... more
    • phonics - Tonya Isenhour, Fri Dec 2 19:23
      Good presentation. Research well planned and organized. After doing this project, will you apply these interventions with your classes at the beginning of school next year?
      • Re: phonics - Ruth Ann Timmons, Sun Dec 11 20:21
        Thank you! Since completing the research, presentation, and paper it is even more clear that these small group interventions are indeed working. As Marlee said, we will continue using them this year... more
      • Next year - Marlee Wright, Wed Dec 7 21:56
        You bet we do. We have really been pleased with the growth we have seen in our at-risk students, and we'll start early next year with the interventions. We'll also continue the small group work this... more
    • QIWK - MaryBeth, Fri Dec 2 11:33
      Great job! Your presentation was very clear and easy to understand. From your list of assessments, I noticed that one assessed letter identification, one assessed initial sounds, and then you also... more
      • Re: QIWK - Marlee Wright, Fri Dec 2 13:53
        That assessment is a developmental spelling assessment. There are word lists that go on up in levels, but for kindergarten, early in the year, we had them write 6 words. We looked at the beginning... more
        • QWIK - Rachel Hicks, Mon Dec 5 17:48
          I learned something new! I have to learn more about QWIK
          • Re: QWIK - Ruth Ann Timmons, Sun Dec 11 20:27
            QIWK is my new favorite assessment to see what stage they are in for word/sound development. I'm excited to use this with the whole class when I return in January so I will know exactly where to... more
          • QIWK - Marlee Wright, Wed Dec 7 21:59
            We did too - we researched it as a result of a suggestion by Dr. Koppenhaver, and we found that we probably learned more about our students from that assessment than from any other assessment we have ... more
    • Activities - atkinssh, Thu Dec 1 19:53
      Great job on your project! It sounds like your students made a great deal of progress in a short amount of time. Just curious, what are some of the strategies and activities that you used to help... more
      • strategies - Marlee Wright, Thu Dec 1 20:54
        We did lots of sorting pictures into categories by beginning sounds, and played matching games where they created a match by finding two pictures with the same initial sound. We also used lots of... more
    • small group phonics - beasleylm, Thu Dec 1 09:57
      Really great presentation! I agree with Lori and how there is so much required of these little Kinders. The graphs were great and really showed the growth of your students. I wonder if you set aside... more
      • Re: small group phonics - Ruth Ann Timmons, Sun Dec 11 21:32
        Thanks! It is true, there is a great deal required in kindergarten these days, making it that much more challenging for students who come to school under prepared or with other underlying problems.... more
      • Small Group Phonics - burchamal, Thu Dec 8 15:58
        This is definitely a building block for our study. I found that some of my lower students lacked the ability to phonetically figure out a word. This made it even more difficult to morphemically... more
      • Block of time - Marlee Wright, Thu Dec 1 12:02
        We focus mainly on working with beginning sounds and with rhyming words in that block, but we have the block of time each day. Keeping them in the flow of a daily time frame seems to help. We also... more
    • Ruth Ann and Marlee - sarah hutson, Thu Dec 1 00:25
      Kindergarten is the very beginning to all reading instruction. Phonics skills are the basic key to learning to read. I enjoyed your presentation on using small group instruction for phonics. Students ... more
      • Re: Ruth Ann and Marlee - Ruth Ann Timmons, Sun Dec 11 22:01
        Thank you. I wish we did have time during the day for working one-on-one with our students. However, my own parents, who are both retired teachers starting last year coming to my classroom once a... more
      • motions - Marlee Wright, Thu Dec 1 12:06
        I agree, the movements do help solidify the sounds we are working on. I use an "imaginary yo-yo" to help them stretch out some of the beginning sounds, and a motion like the sign for "popcorn" to... more
        • additional resources - Rachel Hicks, Mon Dec 5 17:50
          Ashley shared with our team the website havefunteaching.com they have a lot of songs that the students love to sing.
          • music - Marlee Wright, Wed Dec 7 22:01
            That's good to know - I don't know any kindergarten child who does not love singing - another great learning/teaching strategy! I'll look that website up for sure!
          • Re: additional resources - Nakita Carson, Tue Dec 6 18:56
            Wow! Does that website include songs and things for older grades?
            • Havefunteaching.com - Rachel Hicks, Wed Dec 7 06:36
              Yes, I'm sure there are. Also try playing around with schooltube.com it has videos that teachers and students made on a variety of different topics. You can access the videos that havefunteaching has ... more
    • reply to Marlee/Ruth Ann - Lori Vestal, Wed Nov 30 22:19
      I teach special education and know exactly the type of students you are talking about. What I am concerned about with the demands of kindergarten now is, are we expecting too much from their little... more
      • on K pressures - koppenhaverd, Sun Dec 4 17:53
        I would have been labeled ADHD in K, when in fact I was just EB (easily bored). My oldest son probably would have had to repeat kindergarten given today's standards--he has a B.A. from Catawba... more
      • Re: reply to Marlee/Ruth Ann - Marlee Wright, Thu Dec 1 12:14
        I have been teaching for about 25 years, and it has really changed within that time. When I first taught kindergarten, we used the Circle of Childhood philosophy - nearly everything was done through... more
      • high expectations - Ruth Ann Timmons, Thu Dec 1 00:19
        Lori you bring up a great point. Kindergarten isn't was it used to be. It is nothing like what I remember- naps on mats, long center time, and learning to color. In fact, it has continued to change... more
        • Re: high expectations - Nakita Carson, Tue Dec 6 19:02
          The expectations have definitely changed! I have been teaching for fifteen years now and I remember when there were a lot more themes and fun to kindergarten. I really don't think all of this is... more
          • Re: high expectations - Ruth Ann Timmons, Fri Dec 9 17:10
            Amen Nakita! Gone are the "theme days" of K or at least the ones we get to choose. Our instruction these days is totally mandated by Imagine It! We still try to make it fun but there is a lot less... more
        • Re: Expectations - Rachel Hicks, Mon Dec 5 17:55
          With the curriculum changing and our expectations increasing, there has to be a way for the parents and daycare's/preschool's to have a clearer picture of what will be expected of the children once... more
          • Re: Expectations - Ruth Ann Timmons, Tue Dec 6 15:44
            Rachel, I totally agree. Each year the bar seems to be raised even higher and it doesn't seem fair to the kids or parents. At one point a few years ago, I thought there was a program (or at least a... more
        • re: high expectations - MaryBeth, Mon Dec 5 10:51
          Ruth Ann- My first teaching position was 12 years ago and I worked some with the lowest K, 1, and 2 students. Now that my oldest son is in Kindergarten, I cannot believe the changes in 12 years. Like ... more
          • re: high expectations - Ruth Ann Timmons, Tue Dec 6 16:01
            Its true MaryBeth, kindergarten these days seem to have the wider range of ability levels than ever. And with the expectations seeming to change daily, it is a challenge to make sure we are reaching... more
          • Standards - Marlee Wright, Mon Dec 5 11:33
            It can be pretty difficult some days, but that makes those rewarding days even sweeter! I love kindergarten - the children grow so much that year. It does trouble me that we have to move at such a... more
            • response to Marlee on Standards - sarah patten, Tue Dec 6 20:58
              I agree! We do not celebrate the growth of each child! Some children show growth but not at the level required at that grade level. We need to rejoice with each child reaching a milestone even if it... more
              • Re: response to Marlee on Standards - MaryBeth, Mon Dec 12 09:25
                Sarah- This is so true! I just wish everyone understood this!
              • Re: response to Marlee on Standards - Ruth Ann Timmons, Sun Dec 11 21:24
                You are right Sarah. It is important to help each child see their progress/success and celebrate their individual growth instead of always focusing only on the expectation levels set by the state.
              • growth - Amanda Solesbee, Wed Dec 7 23:03
                I also agree! I am a huge advocate for celebrating growth at whatever amount it might be at their instructional level. It is hard to get others to follow that celebration as for me in a testing... more
            • Re: Standards - Nakita Carson, Tue Dec 6 19:06
              I completely agree Marlee! I am so glad that student's promotion to 4th grade does not depend strictly on passing the EOG's anymore! I have felt for a very long time that we need to judge student... more
        • response to Ruth Ann - Lori Vestal, Sat Dec 3 13:35
          I too think that requiring students to be 5 on or before August 30th helps with the high expectations that the school system imposes on them. We had some babies coming to kindergarten when they did... more
          • Re: response to Ruth Ann - Ruth Ann Timmons, Tue Dec 6 16:19
            Lori, you are exactly right. Regardless of their socioeconomic situation, I feel children who attend a pre-k program have an advantage and are more prepared for the challenges of school.
    • Re: Marlee Wright/Ruth Ann Timmons - Ashley Montgomery, Wed Nov 30 16:49
      I enjoyed your presentation. I also teach kindergarten and you are right that many students come to kindergarten unprepared. I have also found that early interventions are the best way to get them... more
      • Early Interventions - sarah patten, Tue Dec 6 21:01
        Early interventions are the way to go!
        • early interventions - Amanda Solesbee, Wed Dec 7 23:07
          Yes, you are right! The earlier you start the better off your students are. I started doing IRI's on my studetns on the first day of school, and was finished by the third day of school. Then I had my ... more
      • early interventions - Ruth Ann Timmons, Wed Nov 30 21:22
        Thanks Ashley. I love teaching kindergarten, but sadly it is a harsh reality to see kids and their parents discover just how academically challenging it is now. The sooner we can begin working with... more
        • engaging and appropriate - koppenhaverd, Sun Dec 4 18:08
          The sooner we can begin working with underprepared kids in engaging and appropriate activities with which they can succeed and make progress the better. Standards are not assisting that process at... more
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